It is a bit encouraging to see the relevant standards that are being revised
in light of the incidents and recalls.  It seems the recall does not help
remove the problem completely.  The explosion continues after the recall.

For example, LG appointed the Korea Electrotechnology Research Institute to
find out the root cause of their battery pack caught fire and the published
result was unknown.  They said that the battery exploded in unusual heat and
pressure circumstances.  How come did the normal customers operated the
product in unusual heat and pressure circumstances?

I also watched some video clips that showed no explosion when the battery
pack was dropped from 2nd floor and knocked by the hammer.  I encountered a
couple of battery packs that caught fire while they were not being used at
night.  The investigation revealed that it is normal in this type of battery
cell and cell manufacturers admit that the failure rate is still very low as
compared with other safety failures.

I do hope the Japanese government and other governments force the trading
companies to find out the root cause and fix it permanently.  Otherwise,
what is the point to revise the relevant standards that set out the MINIMUM
safety requirements!

Scott
 


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian
O'Connell
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: UL 2054 testing for lithium batteries

Python 2.4.2
following from CSDS proposal for UL 1642

Subject 1642
Bulletin Dated: May 23, 2008
SUMMARY OF TOPICS
The following is being proposed for preliminary review and
comment only:
1. For Preliminary Review Only: Replace the Term "Component Cell"
with The Term "Cell" in 21.2
2. For Preliminary Review Only: Revise "Fully Discharged" and Add
"Completely Discharged" to the Glossary
3. For Preliminary Review Only: Removal of Redundant Tests and
Clarification of User Replaceable
4. For Preliminary Review Only: Removal of Redundant Information
for Sample Requirements
5. For Preliminary Review Only: Temperature Monitoring for
Technician Safety
6. For Preliminary Review Only: Clarification of the Short
Circuit Test
7. For Preliminary Review Only: Clarification of the Abnormal
Charging Test
8. For Preliminary Review Only: Clarification of "Ultimate
Results Criteria"
9. For Preliminary Review Only: Criteria for Crush Test
10. For Preliminary Review Only: Conversion to SI Units and
Inclusion of Tolerances
11. For Preliminary Review Only: Correction of Units in
Temperature Measurement and Additional Criteria for Heating Test
for Additional Battery Chemistries
12. For Preliminary Review Only: New Section 22 for Primary
Battery Markings
13. For Preliminary Review Only: New Section 23 for Secondary
Battery Markings
14. For Preliminary Review Only: Revise Appendix A
15. For Preliminary Review Only: Revise 2.3.2 to Include an
Exception for PTCs Explaining How to Evaluate an Internal PTC Not
Evaluated to UL 1434 Requirements

following from CSDS proposal for UL2054

Subject 2054
Bulletin Dated: May 23, 2008
SUMMARY OF TOPICS
The following is being proposed for preliminary review and
comment only:
1. For Preliminary Review Only: Replace "Component Cell" with
"Cell" Throughout the Standard
2. For Preliminary Review Only: Deletion of "User Replaceable"
for Secondary Lithium Cells
3. For Preliminary Review Only: Addition of the Definition for
"Completely Discharged" and "Enclosure" to the Glossary; Revision
to the Definition of "Casing" for Clarification
4. For Preliminary Review Only: Battery Construction
5. For Preliminary Review Only: Editorial Changes for 6.3
6. For Preliminary Review Only: Short-Circuit Test
7. For Preliminary Review Only: Abnormal Charging Test
8. For Preliminary Review Only: Abusive Overcharge Test
9. For Preliminary Review Only: Forced-Discharge Test
10. For Preliminary Review Only: Clarification of Limited Power
11. For Preliminary Review Only: Addition of Battery Pack
Component Temperature Test as New Section 13A and Addition of
Battery Pack Surface Temperature Test as New Section 13B
12. For Preliminary Review Only: Criteria for Crush Test
13. For Preliminary Review Only: Conversion to SI Units and
Inclusion of Tolerances
14. For Preliminary Review Only: Tests to Evaluate Battery Pack
Metallic Enclosures
15. For Preliminary Review Only: Battery Enclosure Tests
16. For Preliminary Review Only: Mold Stress Release Test
17. For Preliminary Review Only: Drop Impact Testing for Low
Temperatures
18. For Preliminary Review Only: Battery Storage Temperature
19. For Preliminary Review Only: Marking and Instructions
20. For Preliminary Review Only: New Section 26 for Markings and
Instructions for Secondary Lithium Battery Packs
21. For Preliminary Review Only: Addition of Appendix A

My comments:
UL 1642 provides test requirement for following electrical tests:

Short-Circuit at room and elevated temps
Abnormal Charge 
Forced Discharge
UL 1642 provides test requirement for following mechanical tests
Crush
Impact
Shock
Vibration
UL 1642 provides test requirement for following environmental
tests
Heating
Temperature Cycling
Altitude Simulation

So what other type tests should be added ? I feel it is the
tester and/or the person that 'designs' the test that cannot be
relied upon, not necessarily the standard.

luck,
Brian 


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
Jim
Eichner
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Jim Eichner
Subject: RE: UL 2054 testing for lithium batteries

Does anybody have any insight into the changes that those
standards are
going to make in light of the incidents and recalls?  If we can't
rely
on UL2054's requirements, and want to apply additional testing or
requirements to UL2054 battery packs, then it would be helpful to
know
where that standard is headed. 

Jim Eichner, P.Eng.
Compliance Engineering Manager
Xantrex Technology Inc.
e-mail: [email protected]
web: www.xantrex.com  

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