Legal is already engaged and are always very pro safety but I always like to have as many options as possible available when it comes to convincing non safety types to do the right thing…….
From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:43 PM To: Tyra, John; [email protected] Subject: RE: Auto cigarette lighter charger requirements That’s why you get your company legal beagles involved. They’re the best friends I have in these discussions. Can’t help with suggesting standards (I’m an EMC guy), but get a moment with your legal folks. Arguments should vanish. I know ours make me look like a pussycat on the subject of regulatory compliance, and I’m not noted for backing down. J Ghery S. Pettit From: Tyra, John [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:40 AM To: Pettit, Ghery; [email protected] Subject: RE: Auto cigarette lighter charger requirements Thanks Ghery I agree with you but logic does not always play into these decisions for individuals who are not safety engineers..I have certainly posed this scenario but it always helps if there are Regulatory requirements as this ends all arguments……….. From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:30 PM To: Tyra, John; [email protected] Subject: RE: Auto cigarette lighter charger requirements Ask those who are pushing back how they plan on defending your employer in a lawsuit if something does happen. “No, your honor, it was our opinion that safety approvals were not required.” “Judgment for the plaintive in the amount of $XX,XXX,XXX” No thanks. Ghery S. Pettit From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tyra, John Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Auto cigarette lighter charger requirements Hello everyone, We are looking at a car adapter/ charger for one of our products and I wanted to get some opinions on what the possible mandatory regulatory requirements might be. For past chargers we required the following for North America UL Listing to UL2089 CSA Approval to: CSA Technical Information Letter No.I-35, in addition to one or more of the following: CAN/CSA-C22.2 No. 107.1, CAN/CSA-C22.2 No. 107.2. CAN/CSC22.2 No.223. Our vendor recommended CB approval to IEC60950. And for EMC the e-mark is required from what I understand. Questions 1. Does anyone have an opinion if the UL and CSA approvals are legally required or just good to haves? 2. For the EU are there any safety approvals required or again is a CB report just a nice to have. I ask as I am getting push back here about having to get the approvals and I have made my case why it makes sense, from a liability point of view, to have approvals but it would be helpful to know if these types of devices must have Safety certifications. Thanks in advance and I look forward to opinions…….. John Tyra Manager Product Safety Group Bose Corporation The Mountain, MS-450 Framingham, MA 01701-9168 phone: 508-766-1502 fax: 508-518-4137 [email protected] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments relate to the official business of Bose Corporation and are proprietary to Bose. This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible for delivering it to the addressee). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your computer. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]> David Heald <[email protected]> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]> David Heald <[email protected]>
