For several years, I have gone through this name-change madness about 2x per year because of customer mergers.
In general, company marks are in accordance with the requirements of the NCB/agency that has performed the assessment and whose logos are affixed to the unit. Look at the file's section general for UL-marked units, or look at your the general agreement with the agency that you signed. The purpose of a company mark is to provide tracibility. And for Mr Monsen, good luck with Oracle... and time for me to ask for a fork on the MySQL project - just (somewhat) kidding. R/S, Brian From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Dan Roman Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:17 AM To: Monrad Monsen; [email protected] Subject: RE: [PSES] Agency Labels Without Manufacturer Name Monrad, If it is global product you will run into troubles, particularly in eastern Asia. As some list readers have pointed out, some entities such as UL make allowances to do what you want, but this is not something that can be achieved globally. You will find a handful of countries that will be difficult to deal with. We re-branded some of our labels after a name change but did not update the copyright on the PCB silkscreen and were hassled because it was a different company name. Just one example. Dan From: Monrad Monsen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 5:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PSES] Agency Labels Without Manufacturer Name Now that "Sun Microsystems, Inc." has been acquired by Oracle (27 January 2010), we are keeping a "Sun" as a brand name for our hardware and using an Oracle/Sun combination badge on the front of our products. We would like to quickly change our products over to the new corporate name, but there is a cost in updating the agency certificates for all of our products' worldwide agency approvals. One proposal is to totally remove the mention of the manufacturer from our agency labels and just use the combination Oracle/Sun brand badge on the front as the identification. If the agency approval is still tied to the old "Sun Microsystems, Inc.", then use that name from the front badge. If the agency approval has been converted to "Oracle", then use that name from the front badge. I have always ensured that the manufacturer name is placed on the same agency label along with the compliance model number and all of the approval marks. My purpose was to allow freedom for engineering and marketing to do anything to the rest of the product since all of the agency information needed was strictly on that agency label. However, I can't find any legal requirement or standard that calls for this, and the manufacturer-less agency label idea would certainly save money and expedite the transition away from strictly listing Sun Microsystems as the manufacturer. Are there any legal or regulatory requirements for identifying the manufacturer on the agency label? Are there any other drawbacks to having a manufacturer -less agency label and just using a combination new & old manufacturer Oracle/Sun logo on the front of the product (agency labels are normally placed on the back near the power cord or on the underside)? Note: You'll see the combination Oracle/Sun logo (old Sun logo is over the red Oracle logo) in many places on the www.oracle.com web site. Thanks. Monrad Monsen Oracle - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
