The steering lockout is still not a problem on the modern cars I have 
driven. On those with automatic transmission (runaway is hardly a problem 
on a car with manual transmission--just depress the clutch pedal to 
disengage power), there has always been an ignition off position before 
steering lockout is hit, and the key won't rotate to the steering lockout 
position until the transmission is in "park". So it is a simple matter to 
turn off the engine and not lock the steering wheel, even in a panic.

I have not had any such problem so far (and don't have a Toyota), but I 
have practiced rotating the key to ignition off, as well as putting the 
transmission in neutral while under power, just in case runaway should 
ever happen. I guess I must be some sort of strange bird....  I recently 
read that my car has brake override for the throttle, so I tried that too 
(it works!).

As far as getting a car home but needing to rev the engine to keep it 
running, one can always use a lower gear to keep the speed down to 
maintain some safety.

Donald Borowski
Schweitzer Engineering Labs
Pullman, Washington, USA



From:
Bill Owsley <[email protected]>
To:
"Pettit, Ghery" <[email protected]>, "Grasso, Charles" 
<[email protected]>, Andrew McCallum 
<[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>
List-Post: [email protected]
List-Post: [email protected]
List-Post: [email protected]
Date:
02/17/2010 09:06 AM
Subject:
Re: Toyota
Sent by:
[email protected]



Oh that's funny. Reminds me of nearly the same only it was a Ford Falcon 
and when the spring broke, the mechanical arrangement and weight defaulted 
to wide open.  I'm sure glad that was before the steering lockout when the 
key is turned off.  Now they are going to no throttle when the brake is 
applied so how am I supposed to get a car home when the engine has to be 
kept rev'd up to stay running?  More roadside repairs...
 
- Bill
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From: "Pettit, Ghery" <[email protected]>
To: "Grasso, Charles" <[email protected]>; Andrew McCallum 
<[email protected]>; "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 11:26:34 AM
Subject: RE: Toyota

I recall having a car go WOT while driving when I was in high school. Long 
(looooooong) before electronic throttle control.  As in a 1963 Rambler. 
The throttle return spring had broken when I stepped on the gas while 
accelerating.  Turning off the ignition was the simple immediate action. 
Reconnected what was left of the spring and away we went.  Fortunately, no 
bent metal or hurt people.  John is potentially jumping to conclusions.
 
 
Ghery S. Pettit
 
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grasso, 
Charles
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:28 AM
To: 'Andrew McCallum'; '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Toyota
 
I agree with Johns comments. Looking at the title its my impression that 
Keith is forcibly making the case 
that EMI and/or manufacturing practices caused this crash. This is a 
dangerous case to make considering
that there is no evidence of what caused the crash.
As John points out ? one can get mechanical ?latch-up? too.
 
Best Regards
Charles Grasso
 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew 
McCallum
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Toyota
 
See link for Keith Armstrongs view:
 
  http://www.nutwooduk.co.uk/downloads/Toyota.doc
quick link : Full article here...
 
Andrew McCallum
 
Senior EMC Engineer
DeltaRail Group Plc
 

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