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From: Pettit, Ghery <[email protected]> To: Pettit, Ghery <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:11 pm Subject: RE: FCC site registration Re-try. Stupid listserve rejected this as a duplicate message. Duplicate, my foot! From: P ettit, Ghery [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:09 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: FCC site registration Peter, There are three different approval processes used for digital devices under the FCC Rules. Verification, Certification and Declaration of Conformity. Which one you use depends on the product. See FCC Rules 15.101a for a table showing what process applies to what type of product. Verification is a simple process where you use any lab that you, the manufacturer, are convinced meets the requirements in Part 2 of the FCC Rules. Basically, is the lab equipped to perform the tests or not. Once you have data showing compliance you put the required label on the product, put the required text in the user documentation and sell the product. Verification is used for class A devices (devices not marketed to the public for use in the home – think servers and mainframes) and some limited class B devices (not PCs or their peripherals). Certification is more complicated. You must use an FCC Listed laboratory. To be Listed the lab submits paper to the FCC showing details of the test facility demonstrating that they are equipped to do the testing. Nothing said about quality of processes or people, just the facility. Once you have a test report from the Listed lab, you submit an application to a 3rd party who processes the paperwork for the FCC. Costs you time and money. Once approval is granted you label the product, put the required text in the user documentation and sell the product. Certification may be used for class B devices and is required for int entional radiators (like the WiFi unit in my laptop). Declaration of Conformity is the simplest for the manufacturer and the most complicated for the lab. You have your product tested in an accredited lab located in a country acceptable to the FCC. The lab must be accredited to ISO/IEC 17025:2005 by A2LA or NIST NVLAP in the US or the accrediting body in the country in which it is located. Once you have data showing compliance, you label the product, put the necessary text in the user documentation and ship, much like Verification. Different label, of course. No submittal, wait or fees as are required for Certification. DoC is used for class B devices, such as personal computers and their peripheral devices. So, to answer your latest question, it depends. Is your lab accredited to ISO/IEC 17025:2005 and is it located in a country acceptable to the FCC? If so, data from it may be used for the DoC process. If not, it cannot. Is your lab FCC Listed? If so, the report may be used for the Certification process. =2 0If not, it cannot. Finally, does your lab meet the requirements in Part 2 of the FCC Rules? If so, the data may be used for Verification. If not, well I think you get the idea. From your original message it sounds like your lab is FCC Listed. In that case, it is good for Verification or Certification, but not Declaration of Conformity. I hope this helps. A bit more long winded that some of the other replies, but this isn’t a simple question suitable for a one sentence answer. And, no, I don’t work for a lab and I’m not trying to drum up business for our in-house labs. Best of luck to you. Ghery S. Pettit EMC Regulatory Compliance Manager Corporate Product Regulations and Standards Inte l Corporation Caveat – the opinions expressed in this message are my own and not necessarily those of my employer. Any errors will be blamed on ‘evil spirits’ between my keyboard and the internet. J From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:50 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: FCC site registration Thanks guys for the info, but I guess my question is that what benefit this site registration gives me if I can not test our product in our newly registered site? I am bit confused between self delcration and DoC. Are they different? and bottom line, can I use my own test data toclaim compliance? > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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