The dimensions of the PATIENT ENVIRONMENT are intended to define a volume in space that is not only reachable by the patient, but also reachable by somebody when also in contact with the patient. Ged Dean
________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barker, Neil Sent: 28 September 2009 10:09 To: Andy Clifford; Ronald R. Wellman; [email protected] Subject: RE: [PSES] Canadian Medical Device, maybe I suspect a bit of confusion over units of measurement. For all practical purposes, 1.5 metres = 5 feet. Best regards Neil Barker CEng CEnv MIET Hon FSEE MIEEE Manager Central Quality e2v 106 Waterhouse Lane, Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 2QU, England Tel: +44 (0)1245 453616 Mobile: +44 (0)7801 723735 Fax: +44 (0)1245 453571 www.e2v.com <http://www.e2v.com/> P Consider the environment: do you really need to print this e mail? ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andy Clifford Sent: 28 September 2009 08:43 To: 'Ronald R. Wellman'; [email protected] Subject: RE: [PSES] Canadian Medical Device, maybe The PATIENT ENVIRONMENT is defined as within 1.5m of the patient (60601-1). The idea is that patients cannot reach 1.5m without moving their body. I don’t know where 5m comes from. Best regards Andy Clifford Conformance Ltd - Product safety, approvals and CE-marking consultants The Old Methodist Chapel, Great Hucklow, Buxton, SK17 8RG England Tel. +44 1298 873800, Fax. +44 1298 873801, www.conformance.co.uk Registered in England, Company No. 3478646 ________________________________ From: Ronald R. Wellman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 26 September 2009 13:55 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Canadian Medical Device, maybe Hello Peter, Could you please let me know where this 5 meters comes from? Many different types of personal computers are used in the medical industry that will come in close proximity to a patient that are not under the control of medical practitioners, including many hand held IT devices . Best regards, Ron Wellman From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of peter merguerian Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 7:30 AM To: IEEE EMC Discussion Group; Derek Walton Subject: Re: Canadian Medical Device, maybe Derek, As long as it is 5 meters from the patient, it can be considered ITE Peter Merguerian --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Derek Walton <[email protected]> wrote: From: Derek Walton <[email protected]> Subject: Canadian Medical Device, maybe To: "IEEE EMC Discussion Group" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 6:54 AM Good day all, I have been asked by a client to look into what requirements exist for a device that will be installed on the wall of a Doctors office in Canada. It has no patient contact, and essentially is a PC for recalling and displaying patient information. I can find loads of requirements for devices that attach to patients, or attach indirectly for patients, but nothing thats benign like this. 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