Hello Ed (et al) The CD had scuff marks on the cover but no obvious outside damage. It did feel "funny" when I slit it open and only when I upended the wrapper to drop the CD did I discover I had a CD in Kit Form. Where will the great case of the "Dead CD" lead us - A full official enquire with 5 standing committees appointed, years of research, a 12,000 page report and a new EN Standard for CD Mailers - - - - I don't know When all the dust has settled I believe there will be one of two paths left to explore. Path -1 will be to revert to a more substantial mailing cover and incur increased mailing expense but where the "Losses" are minimal. Path -2 will entail a "Risk Management" approach where a "Statistical Number" of damaged CD are considered acceptable and are replaced as needed. As I have deliberately not allowed myself to be in a position to make these decisions I will assume the role of a bystander and see what the future brings. I last night received an undamaged replacement CD (in a plastic cover + heavy mailer) so I consider the incident closed. Regards to all. Michael Taylor Colorado
________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Price, Edward Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Damaged CD of 2009 EMC Proceedings ________________________________ From: Price, Edward Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Damaged CD of 2009 EMC Proceedings Seriously, CD's are pretty tough. That one must have received very "special" handling to yield 17 pieces. BTW, did you ever receive an envelope with a big official sticker on it that reads "Damaged in Handling by your Postal Service"? The irony is almost more than I can stand. <g> Answering myself again, but I wanted to mention that I received my disc in yesterday's mail, and it was undamaged. However, the mailer that was used was, indeed, a very poor protector of the disc. I noticed that this year's mailer is substantially thinner and less protective that the mailer from last year. I suggest two alternatives. If IEEE wants to continue to physically mail a CD, then I would prefer that they save the cost of that fancy color artwork and put that expenditure into a 10-cent bubble-pack mailer instead. Perhaps a better way would be for us to simply download the content from an IEEE server and burn our own CD. Every little bit we can save should help the IEEE meet its (IIRC) $350M budget without any more of those "cost of living" annual dues increases. Ed Price [email protected] <blocked::mailto:[email protected]> WB6WSN NARTE Certified EMC Engineer Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Applications San Diego, CA USA 858-505-2780 Military & Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]> David Heald <[email protected]> Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]> David Heald <[email protected]>
