Kevin, 2043 is primarily concentrates on heat and smoke/chemical substance release, not so much if it is actually resistant to fire. They perform product level testing. UL will set the product on fire and will monitor product heat release and smoke. For the plastics, here is the quote from UL Fire test expert: "The best plastics that I have seen in the UL 2043 test (lowest smoke and heat release) are combinations of PEI/PC (polyetherimide/polycarbonate). I know that one brand name is Ultem, but I believe there are others. Hopeful the resin suppliers can give you more exact performance information." Hope this helps Mark
________________________________ Subject: RE: UL 94 List-Post: [email protected] List-Post: [email protected] List-Post: [email protected] Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:02:48 -0400 From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected] Kevin, The info I have gotten from UL is that they are totally UNrelated. I think I remember that UL 2043 is commonly called the Steiner tunnel test, and it is a bulk materials test, down something like a 24 foot chamber. UL 94 is a small sample test. It has generally been difficult for us to find materials that we have any confidence of meeting UL 2043. James Goedderz Product Safety Engineer Tyco/Sensormatic 561.912.6378 ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Keegan Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: UL 94 Hi, Does anyone know if there is any relationship between standard UL 94 plastics flammability standard and UL 2043 Standard for Fire test Heat and visible smoke release for products installed in air handling spaces. In other words if the product uses UL 94 V0 plastic will this be good enough to comply with UL 2043? Regards, Kevin Keegan Senior Associate KES & Associates 1 Stonecroft Terrace Kanata, Ontario Canada K2K 2V1 Tel: 613-592-0820 Email: [email protected] Web: http://www.kesandassociates.com IMPORTANT NOTICE: This email is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is specifically addressed and should not be read by, or delivered to, any other person. Such material may contain privileged or confidential information, the disclosure or other use of which by other than the intended recipient may result in the breach of certain laws or the infringement of rights of third parties. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately and notify the sender. I thank you in advance for your co-operation and assistance. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]> David Heald <[email protected]> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]> David Heald <[email protected]> ________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. See how. <http://www.windowslive-hotmai .com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TX _MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]> David Heald <[email protected]>
