For Consumer products I see your point, but what about test, measurement, and laboratory equipment? These products are usually sold business to business and it's really up to the Customer to decide if NRTL is required for the sale.
Best regards, Ron Wellman From: Tyra, John [mailto:john_t...@bose.com] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:50 AM To: 'Ron Wellman'; peterh...@aol.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Mandatory NRTL certification I don't see where companies really have much of a choice as this is a legal requirement in 20 States for Consumer products From: Ron Wellman [mailto:rwell...@wellman.com] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 10:27 AM To: Tyra, John; peterh...@aol.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Mandatory NRTL certification This question comes up about every two years and what it boils down to is a catch 22. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. In my opinion, it is better to do regardless of how unbalanced these requirements are within the United States. As long as you budget for it and your management understands the risks of not having NRTL listing, it will be easier to manage. Best regards, Ron Wellman From: Tyra, John [mailto:john_t...@bose.com] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 6:34 AM To: 'Ron Wellman'; 'peterh...@aol.com'; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: RE: Mandatory NRTL certification While there are no Federal laws requiring NRTL certification and marking of electronic products there are laws in 16 States which require an NRTL mark for mains connected electronic products.and laws in 4 other States which specify consumer products only. CEA commissioned a State survey, which was updated in 2010, which outlines the legal requirement or lack of for all 50 States..... From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ron Wellman Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:49 PM To: peterh...@aol.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Mandatory NRTL certification NRTL certification/listing is not mandatory for product Manufacturers. This is a Customer driven requirement so your Customers can comply with local OSHA requirements. If you don't want to list or certify your product that's really a Marketing call. Also, it is my experience that most large Companies require third party approvals as a condition of sale. Therefore, unless you want to be reactive to Customer sales I would make sure your Marketing people understand the risk of losing a sale if your product is not certified/listed by an NRTL. Best regards, Ron Wellman From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of peterh...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:41 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Mandatory NRTL certification Hello All, Today a colleague asked me a question as to why do we need NRTL certification such as UL or CSA on any product in the US. I thought this was a good and logical question and the way I answered it was that to the best of my knowledge, OSHA requires that any products that is used in work place to be safe and to have been certified by one of the NRTL labs. 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