I have had conversations with a UL manager and a European IECEE member about 
standards cost; and both people indicated zero level of concern. To quote 
George Burns, "No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible." 

I understand that there are costs to bear by the WGs and TCs that do this 
stuff, but have not seen data that indicates any of the purchase cost is used 
to directly support standards-development people.

For the U.S., some of the standards purchase cost can be mitigated on the 
corporate tax (R&D expenditures or deduct them as a current expense) - but am 
not an accountant so am not certain of specific requirements.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Derek Walton
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:38 AM
To: McInturff, Gary
Cc: don.g...@alcatel-lucent.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] e-standard.org "The cheapest standards in the world"

Always one to buck the trend, I think these are reasonable prices

We are ripped off by standards bodies left right and centre

MHO

Derek 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 8, 2012, at 10:05 AM, "McInturff, Gary" <gary.mcintu...@esterline.com> 
wrote:

Would appear the real pirates are at UL and BSI

Gary

From: Don Gies [mailto:don.g...@alcatel-lucent.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:25 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] e-standard.org "The cheapest standards in the world"

Ahoy, me hearties!

My view is that there are too many standards that are too cheap at this site, 
and if ANSI were really powering it, they would be doing so from their own 
site.  This site might as well hoist high the Jolly Roger, because it’s 
occupied by pirates.

Ex.:       UL 60950-1 for $20 instead of $422?
            BS EN 60950-1 for $20 instead of £161 to BSI Members, £322 to 
non-members?


DON GIES 
ALCATEL-LUCENT
SENIOR PRODUCT COMPLIANCE ENGINEER
BELL LABS - GLOBAL PRODUCT COMPLIANCE LABORATORY
600-700 Mountain Avenue
Room 5B-104
Murray Hill, NJ 07974-0636 USA   
Phone: +1 908 582 5978
Fax: +1 908 582 0582
don.g...@alcatel-lucent.com
MEMBER, ALCATEL-LUCENT TECHNICAL ACADEMY

From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:29 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: e-standard.org "The cheapest standards in the world"

Does anyone have experience with the subject standards vendor. 

Their prices are so low (NFPA 70-2011 for $25!?) it has activated all my “if 
it’s too good to be true” warning systems. 

Regards,
Lauren Crane
KLA-Tencor

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