I'm afraid this approach may lead to problems.
It is the wording of the Directives (the law) which tells you which directive(s) to apply. You then search for appropriate standards as the basis for assessment. You can't just use the scope of a standard to answer the question. The fact that 60950-1 is the most appropriate standard doesn't tell you that the product "must" be LVD. It is entirely possible to construct a bank paying-in machine which meets the legal definitions of a machine so as to bring it into the scope of the Machinery Directive. John C. _____ From: Knudsen, Patricia [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 September 2012 19:41 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] LCD/MSD boundary - bank paying in machine Banking equipment falls under the IEC 60950-1 safety standard: "monetary processing machines including automated teller (cash dispensing) machines (ATM)". Therefore I'd go with the LVD. 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From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 2:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PSES] LCD/MSD boundary - bank paying in machine All MSD Article 2(k) states: Electrical and electronic products falling within the following areas, insofar as they are covered by Council Directive 73/23/EEC of 19 February 1973 on the harmonisation of the laws of Member States relating to electrical equipment designed for use within certain voltage limits (3): - household appliances intended for domestic use, - audio and video equipment, - information technology equipment, - ordinary office machinery, - low-voltage switchgear and control gear, - electric motors; The Guidance document states that "The exclusion set out in the fourth indent of Article 1 (2) (k) applies to electrical equipment such as, for example, printers, copiers, fax machines, sorters, binders and staplers" The example I'm considering is a commercial, indoor, bank paying-in machine -where deposits are placed in envelopes. - It contains a PC, screen, keyboard and reel-fed printer (for receipts) and keypad for entering information - The deposit envelope is placed in a receptacle that has a sliding lid (with obstruction detector) This doesn't seem to far removed from an electronic sorter or binder in terms of hazard, and there are plenty of household appliances have moving parts - many with far high power actuators Is it therefore reasonable to assess a paying-in machine to LVD, or should MSD be applied? 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