Regarding UL 61010-1 3rd Ed., how will we know when we can start using this new 
standard? We currently use the 3rd Ed. for Europe because it becomes mandatory 
in October, but our NRTL says we cannot use the 3rd Ed. in North America yet. 
How will we know when we can?

You are correct. It is very frustrating having to work with two different 
versions of the same base standard for different markets. It more than doubles 
our work load adding more cost and overhead to our products.

The Other Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pete Perkins
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 2:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: 'Scott Douglas'
Subject: RE: [PSES] Standards Dates

Scott, et al,

        The cessation date is more flexible in the US than in Europe.

        UL has a Continuing Certification Program which has been in place for 
some time which can be applied to certified products approved in the past.

        For instance, UL recently announced that this CCP will apply to
61010 products which were certified under the 1st ed of the standard such that 
those certified products may continue to be UL marked as long as no changes are 
made in the construction as described in the UL Report.  Any changes, of 
course, force the evaluation the entire product to the newer standard; this can 
especially become a problem when, thru no fault f the product manufacturer, 
critical components disappear at end-of-mfg-life and substitutions need to be 
made.

        The decision to use this program seems to be on a standard-by-standard 
basis and is up to the UL STP responsible for the standard.  All the STP 
stakeholders have an opportunity to affect the decision to use (or not use) the 
CCProgram so all interests ought to be served.

        This approach does not negate the EN approach to having definite 
cessation dates (DOCOPOSS, as John W always points out - thank you very much
John) and will be a point of confusion & frustration for manufacturers who work 
to serve a worldwide market with a single product.

        You should be able to determine if this is applicable in your case by 
inquiry into the STP for your standard.

:>)     br,     Pete

Peter E Perkins, PE
Principal Product Safety Engineer
PO Box 23427
Tigard, ORe  97281-3427

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