We have three cats (in addition to three dogs) in the house and contribute to “Forgotten Felines” and other such charities. Two of the three cats have the run of the EMC Compliance office and regularly commit mayhem and destruction, up to and including sending unfinished emails by stomping the keyboard.
I thought Mr. McInturff’s comments were hilarious, but even if I didn’t, I wouldn’t be calling for an apology. Some people like cats, more don’t. There is no right to not be offended. Get over it. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: "McInturff, Gary" <[email protected]> Reply-To: "McInturff, Gary" <[email protected]> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 17:21:46 +0000 To: <[email protected]> Conversation: [PSES] Risk Assessments and mitigation for EMC chambers Subject: Re: [PSES] Risk Assessments and mitigation for EMC chambers A member has taken some offense, reasonably in my opinion to my post. So I might owe one and all an apology. My sense of humor doesn’t always match that of my colleges. So if in appropriate or offensive to anyone. Please accept my sincere apology. Gary From: Michael Derby [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 9:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Risk Assessments and mitigation for EMC chambers If they make microwaves to look more like the carry cases you take a cat to the vet in, then it becomes almost impossible to get the cat to go in there. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: IBM Ken [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 10 January 2014 16:30 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Risk Assessments and mitigation for EMC chambers I call for flashing hazard lights (and 'silent' dog whistles) to be added to all microwaves. On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:26 AM, McInturff, Gary <[email protected]> wrote: Yea I can hardly get more than 4 cats on one of them. J Gary No animals were hurt in writing this email. From: IBM Ken [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 7:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Risk Assessments and mitigation for EMC chambers My guess is because a microwave is a much smaller volume; not likely to have a human inside it when activated. On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Sundstrom, Michael <[email protected]> wrote: >From a RF Health and Safety point of view, why is a microwave oven allowed with just an interlock on the door and not allowed for a RF enclosure for EMC? Human Exposure Limit will not apply if no human is in RF chamber when RF is on. Michael Sundstrom OHD TREQ Dallas Electronic Lab Analyst EMC Lead (214) 579 6312 <tel:%28214%29%20579%206312> office (940) 390 3644 <tel:%28940%29%20390%203644> cell マイク KB5UKT -----Original Message----- From: John Woodgate [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Risk Assessments and mitigation for EMC chambers In message <[email protected]>, dated Thu, 9 Jan 2014, Charlie Blackham <[email protected]> writes: >Anyone have any documents or stories to share as to how they have >satisfied/pacified/dismissed enthusiastic Health & Safety officers who >still want to ?do something?? A safety briefing won't help if a 400 lb EUT slips off the turntable on to your foot. I think emergency stops are not only reasonable but would be required by law in some jurisdictions, and I don't see any EMC issues. Flashing lights are another matter; EMC issues exist and implementation is not as easy as for emergency stops. Can you show that the applicable human exposure limits cannot anywhere be exceeded with the max amplifier and antenna? -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk> Nondum ex silvis sumus John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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