Brian, One point on e/E-marking - in the automotive sector, 'e' marking is going away. As of November, the EU is only doing certification per UN ECE R10, so requires the 'E' mark.
Thanks, David Schaefer EMC Chief Technical Advisor TÜV SÜD America Inc Office: 651 638 0251 Cell: 612 578 6038 Fax: 651 638 0285 -----Original Message----- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:57 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UN ECE R10 Regulation No. 10 Labelling Requirements In general, agree with the mfr if not part of the vehicle's original equipment and not a spare part identical to what was installed as original equipment. R10 describes the mark in annex 1. The NCB or CAB that does the assessment and writes the report should provide marking info. For EU/EFTA and others, depending on the scope of the product, you may also need an 'e' mark in addition to the 'E' mark with a country code, but do not go there unless the assessor can provide a good rationale. The mark does not have to be visible after installed. You can provide additional marks in blood, but that can be corrosive. None of this accounts for the many other national regulations for automotive products. Brian From: John McAuley [mailto:john.mcau...@cei.ie] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 7:58 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] UN ECE R10 Regulation No. 10 Labelling Requirements All Many regulations allow for the regulatory marks to be applied to accompanying documentation or packaging when the item is too small. There does not appear to be any guidance in this respect in UN ECE R10 for EMC. <Sub-assembly An approval mark described in paragraph 5.3. below shall be affixed to every ESA conforming to a type approved under this Regulation. No marking is required for electrical/electronic systems built into vehicles which are approved as units.> The manufacturer does not think that the exclusion for electrical/electronic systems built into vehicles applies to his product. Has anyone any experience of derogations in this respect? Thanks John McAuley - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> The mail and/or attachments are confidential and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email and/or attachments is strictly prohibited. If you were not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately by email at helpd...@tuvam.com and delete this message and all its attachments. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
