If the implementation start date can slide and cannot be known because of dozens of unknowns things that have to come together, then give us a hard two years minimum drop dead date after the implementation (Start date) is known. There is a lot of work that has to be done and a gentleman’s agreement on enforcement is not how things should be done.
Other than on the DoC, do we have to use the Directive Numbers when referring to them in our Manuals, website and Sales literature? Can we just refer to them as the “EMC Directive” or “Low Voltage Directive” for example and let it go at that? For example, currently we refer to the EMC Directive as the “EMC Directive 2004/108/EC” on all our documentation and sales literature which now has to be changed which will cause us a lot of work, cost us a bunch of money and will cause us to throw out any unused materials by the drop dead date. If we can just refer to the directives by name and not by the number that would save us a lot of time and money in the future. Then we will only have to change the reference numbers on the DoC. Doable? If this what everyone does? If not, any objections? The Other Brian From: Ron Pickard (RPQ) [mailto:rpick...@rpqconsulting.com] Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 4:03 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU So, how then would one know that ALL member states have implemented these directives? Would it be officially announced (OJ?) or are the 2016 dates the drop dead dates for the member states? And, will ETSI finish it's revision process of it's RED standards by then? Just curious on this one. I look forward to you reply. Best regards, Ron Pickard Sent from my smartphone ------ Original message------ From: John Woodgate Date: Mon, Mar 2, 2015 12:59 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>; Subject:Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU In message <000f424e.486384b410ff5...@rpqconsulting.com<mailto:%3c000f424e.486384b410ff5...@rpqconsulting.com>>, dated Mon, 2 Mar 2015, "Ron Pickard (RPQ)" writes:>As I believe as Mr. Woodgate pointed out earlier, these new directives >have no legal standing until at least one member state enacts them into >their own legal system. To my knowledge, that hasn't happened yet. >Anyone have any info on this?There has been a new ruling on this from the Commission. One implementation is NOT ENOUGH: the Directives aren't valid until ALL member states have implemented them.I suppose this is because a member state could find a serious objection to implementation, which would put everything back in the melting pot.-- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk<http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk>When I turn my back on the sun, it's to look for a rainbowJohn Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK-----------------------------------------------------------------This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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