John
But many companies that make "genuine" (or "other"!) products also have "dubious" employees, or importers in other countries, who are "less scrupulous" about the way that DoCs are produced! (Almost) Finally, as most companies and government departments now routinely accept electronic documentation as part of day-to-day commercial transactions, then surely electronic signatures are absolutely part of that process - that's part of the hi-tech world we live in today! That's why big companies, with the caveats previously mentioned now, may take that approach. OTOH, it's probably not appropriate for small companies making small quantities, or "on-offs", of products because it's more trouble than it's worth! John Allen W. London, UK -----Original Message----- From: John Woodgate [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 16 March 2015 21:08 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Nameplate and DoC requirements Machinery Directive In message < <mailto:64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB026D3825@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local > 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB026D3825@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local>, dated Mon, 16 Mar 2015, "Kunde, Brian" < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> writes: >Exactly my point. Complicated. And once you put a serial number on the >DoC it becomes a Static Document with its unique document number and it >has to be filed somewhere so it can be recovered someday if anyone asks >for it. I don't agree that the procedure outlined by John Allen is realistic. Normally, a company has one person who signs DoCs (well, maybe two). So for 'shipping copies' you just have a Word (or other fine word processor) template with the signature and add the serial number individually. I can't see that there is much scope for abuse; a fake DoC needs a fake product to go with it and I doubt many companies make fake products along with real ones. It is hardly an onerous task for the CTO or whoever to sign the *original* DoCs. If it is, buy him/her a facsimile writer. There is, of course, no way to stop another company making fake products; compared with the effort that takes, that of forging a DoC is quite trivial. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk When I turn my back on the sun, it's to look for a rainbow John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html> http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at <http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/> http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/> http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html> http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Mike Cantwell < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> David Heald: < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
