Hi Ian,
The "residential" environment is generally understood to be the 
household/domestic environments where humans typically "reside". With that said 
and further into EN 55032 clause 4, there is a subtle and a bit of a loose 
Class B definition: "The Class B requirements are intended to offer adequate 
protection to broadcast services within the residential environment." Such 
residential broadcast services would typically include radio and television for 
personal consumption, and possibly including Wi-Fi now-a days. And, I'm not 
sure what "adequate protection" actually means in this case, but given Ghery's 
statement below, I doubt that it will get any more definitive.

Best regards,

Ron Pickard
Regulatory Compliance Engineer
Compound Photonics
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From: Ghery S. Pettit [mailto:n6...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 12:00 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment

Disclaimer - While I am the Vice Chairman of CISPR I, the following is my 
personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Chairman 
or other members of CISPR I, its working groups, national committees or IEC HQ.

That said...

I don't recall seeing Gert at CISPR I meetings, nor CISPR I WG2 (emissions) or 
CISPR I WG4 (immunity) meetings (he isn't a member of either WG).  If he were 
present, he would know that the reason such regulatory statements are not in 
CISPR standards such as CISPR 22, 24 or 32 is that CISPR standards may not 
contain regulatory statements.  Defining which products must meet Class A or 
Class B limits is up to regulators.  There as even been discussion about the 
"legality" of the Class A warning label in CISPR 22 and 32.  CISPR 32 does have 
language that gives guidance to help the user of the standard properly apply 
it, but a regulator is free to ignore or change this at their discretion.  So, 
to say that CISPR I has been "notorious" is a bit of a stretch, in my opinion.

There has been no serious work done to have two different immunity levels in 
CISPR 24 or 35 as it has not been felt to be needed.  Join your national 
committee (or contact it) and make a proposal if you feel that such additional 
test levels would be warranted.  A persuasive argument would be given a fair 
hearing.  Be aware that any new requirements will take years to incorporate 
into a standard.  Remember, CISPR I has been trying to get CISPR 35 published 
for nearly 15 years as it is, but feel free to make a proposal for an amendment 
to add different test levels for Class A products.  Just remember, we've gotten 
along well with single limits in CISPR 24 since it was originally published in 
1997, so a convincing argument will be needed.

Ghery S. Pettit
Vice Chairman, CISPR SC I

From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 9:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment

1.
Independent of the standards, the EMC directive requires marking on typeplate 
and/or documentation if an equipment is non-residential.

2.
Unwilling standards committees have been "reluctant" in including  the 
definitions in written in their standards.
CISPR I has been notorious in these for years, by not even defining Class A for 
immunity (CISPR 24).
There are ample standards and EC documents giving an appropriate definitions, 
in general something
like:

If it is predominantly used for households or is connected to a residentially 
used power newtwork
the equipment will be residential or often said "Class B".
If connected to a private power network then it should be Industrial or "Class 
A".

One standard that comes to mind that gives a good description including 
examples is EN 61326-1:2013.
An EC document TC210/Sec0515/INF from 2007 addresses the topic in full and 
includes the recommendation to
include a common definition in all harmonized standards.

Gert Gremmen

Van: Bill Stumpf [mailto:bstu...@dlsemc.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 8 december 2015 14:38
Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment

Ian,

There is no definition of "residential" environment in the standard or the EMC 
Guide.  For reference, the FCC classifies products into consumer (Class B) and 
non-consumer (Class A) categories.  In Europe the manufacturer has a similar 
responsibility to make a product that meets the EMC requirements appropriate 
for the intended use of the product. For some products it is more or less up to 
the end user to determine if a Class A or Class B compliant product is 
appropriate.

You will find the Class A warning statement in the EN 55032 standard, Clause 7.

Class A equipment shall have the following warning in the instructions for use, 
to inform the
user of the risk of operating this equipment in a residential environment:

W arning: This equipment is compliant with Class A of CISPR 32. In a residential
environment this equipment may cause radio interference.


Bill Stumpf - Lab / Technical Manager
D.L.S. Electronic Systems, Inc.
166 South Carter Street
Genoa City WI 53128
Ph: 262-279-0210



From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:55 AM
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Subject: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment

Dear colleagues

In the 2015 edition of EN 55032 an interesting statement in clause 4. 
"Equipment intended primarily for use in a residential environment shall meet 
the class B limits. All other equipment shall comply with the Class A limits."
I am unable to locate a definition for residential environment in the standard. 
Does anyone know of an official definition? Would sports stadia, theatres, 
hospitals, commercial industrial estates located in residential housing be 
included in residential environments?
If the product is Class A, is the warning notice still required? "Warning. This 
is a Class A product. In a domestic environment this product may cause radio 
interference in which case the user may be required to take adequate measures." 
This used to be a requirement in EN 55022.

Many thanks in advance.

Ian McBurney
Design & Compliance Engineer.

Allen & Heath Ltd.
Kernick Industrial Estate,
Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK
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