Hello Scott, There are many products that are commonly used outdoors yet are not tested to any specific standard for outdoor use. Cell phones and tablet computers are just two examples of such devices. It is not uncommon for the manufacturer to specify the ingress protection (IP) rating under IEC 60529. In many cases, the manufacturer will not specify that their product is acceptable for outdoor use. The manufacturer will only specify the IP rating. It is then up to the user to determine the acceptability of any given use.
Many cell phones are rated IP20 and have no rating for water ingress protection. The phones have moisture sensors inside, and the manufacturers will void the warranty if any repair finds that the phone has gotten wet. The user is given instructions on acceptable environments, and it is up to the user to make sure that their phone stays dry if they are going to use it outside. Ted Eckert Compliance Engineer Microsoft Corporation [email protected] The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Xe [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers It is my first time to test an audio product for outdoor use. The product is powered by rechargeable lithium batteries and primarily used indoors but can be used occasionally for outdoor picnics and/or parties. Traditionally, we use EN 60065 for safety evaluation. Is there any specific safety standard covering the said operating conditions? For outdoor use product, are there any defined levels of outdoor condition as this is not a product to be used outdoor permanently? Thanks and regards, Scott - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ieee-pses.org%2femc-pstc.html&data=01%7c01%7cted.eckert%40MICROSOFT.COM%7c9677921ebf1747fcaf7008d30aec3c72%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=zx%2fvJyEFQEhBxlsqZ9XVCDR8Q6sOIyvMR7VfGVyVMOo%3d Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fproduct-compliance.oc.ieee.org%2f&data=01%7c01%7cted.eckert%40MICROSOFT.COM%7c9677921ebf1747fcaf7008d30aec3c72%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=YBNnWGhM4VVzOvKfzMy9xniLnlxD1FR0NFD5Slcoo0I%3d can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ieee-pses.org%2f&data=01%7c01%7cted.eckert%40MICROSOFT.COM%7c9677921ebf1747fcaf7008d30aec3c72%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=5oExcBp%2b%2f0mvWzxOyDYr8RkwN%2fvXW%2ftxXIT0vhoPWXw%3d Instructions: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ieee-pses.org%2flist.html&data=01%7c01%7cted.eckert%40MICROSOFT.COM%7c9677921ebf1747fcaf7008d30aec3c72%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=Rj%2fGdbCbxbXrErZI7hhRlCO3MX0li2eRmLDEWGQTCTw%3d (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ieee-pses.org%2flistrules.html&data=01%7c01%7cted.eckert%40MICROSOFT.COM%7c9677921ebf1747fcaf7008d30aec3c72%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=8cy6EUABmv58z7s%2bk7C8EujHdITalHch6RDfF%2fyKiUQ%3d For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
