Many jurisdictions have had third-party certification requirements for many years (70's or earlier), mostly UL, but some CSA. For example, cities of Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago (which has its own electrical code), State of Oregon.
UL used to lobby each jurisdiction so that, when they adopted the NEC, "listed" meant UL. At one time, Oregon had two field inspectors who would look for the UL mark on EVERY electrical item (including the electrical stuff sold in hardware stores) being sold in the retail market. Los Angeles also did field inspections as well as having their own certification lab. With the change to NRTL, more third-party certifiers will be accepted by local jurisdictions. I think it's about time the NEC recognized that third-party certification is more than UL. No big deal. Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Nyffenegger, Dave > [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 2:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PSES] NEC 2017 > > The 2017 NEC will require all appliances to be NRTL > listed. I wonder how that will be enforced? Individual > states adopt the NEC into law. I don't know what the > actual state statutes look like for the current NEC, I > imagine specific statutes would need to be written to > deal with this new requirement, assuming the states > adopt it. Doesn't make sense to enforce that on the > consumer/owner on the manner that OSHA enforces > workplace compliance on the workplace owner. > Appliances present during a AHJ inspection could be > checked but that would be a very small percentage of > appliances. The requirement would have to be put on > the in-state retailers which probably couldn't be > enforced on out of state shippers the same way that > collecting sales tax from out of state shippers is > challenged. Perhaps it could be made to apply to > manufacturers within the state. Perhaps it can be > enforced at the federal level for imports that have to > clear customs. > > -Dave > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
