The real Susan Calvin hasn't been born yet. The Susan Calvin born in 1982 is her grandmother. Her daughter Anna, now 14, will marry her cousin Robert. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Ken Javor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 10:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Friday Question Well, it was certainly not autonomous and therefore not a robot. It was just projection of force from a remote location. We have been doing this since the first caveman picked up a stone and chucked it at a rabbit, or another caveman. It is arguable whether it is good for the republic (what’s left of it) for police to be able to project force in this manner against the civilian population, but that is not hardly an engineering issue.
The engineering issue for a radio-controlled killing or destruction device is that it fail safe. Plenty of engineering precedent for that. When they get to the point of killer robots who are given a mission and allowed to autonomously execute that mission as they best see fit, then it will be time to address much more complex liability issues. Isaac Asimov is rolling over in his grave. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 _____ From: Doug Powell < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Reply-To: Doug Powell < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 14:53:02 -0600 To: < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Subject: [PSES] Friday Question All I haven't done one of these Friday questions in a few years so I thought I would toss one out... With the many recent updates to safety standards that the incorporate provisions for safety risk assessment, I find the topic of misuse and intentional misuse often comes up in RA team meetings. My question is if there are any valid elements within this news article that could be included in those meetings when working with autonomous or semi-autonomous robotics? <http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/what-dallass-shooting-means-for-the-ethics-of-robotics/> http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/what-dallass-shooting-means-for-the-ethics-of-robotics/ ISO 8373 defines robot as "An automatically controlled, reprogrammable, multipurpose manipulator programmable in three or more axes, which may be either fixed in place or mobile for use in industrial automation applications." Now I realize the context of the news article is not industrial and possibly this definition needs updating. I have had opportunity to do certification work with unmanned aerial robots (not drones) to UL 1740 and RIA R15_06-1999, both of which UL has had some involvement. 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