In the field of compliance, we are not looking so much for an accurate 
measurement (where measurement uncertainty would be important), but rather to 
determine if the equipment is under the limit.  Most of the time, the equipment 
should be comfortably under the limit so that uncertainty of the measurement 
should not be an issue.   

 

Rich

 

 

From: Brent DeWitt [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 2:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] Measurement Uncertainty Above 18 GHz

 

I agree with Dennis.  Any measurement of anything has uncertainty.  The 
applicable question is; can we agree on a uniform method of evaluation of that 
uncertainty.  Many of the procedures and methods we use in the EMC world are 
not perfect, but if we strive to make them as uniform as possible, we may have 
common ground for agreement with respect to the results.

 

Standard disclaimers for personal opinion apply!

 

Brent Dewitt, AB1LF

Milford, MA

 

From: dward [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 1:46 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [PSES] Measurement Uncertainty Above 18 GHz

 

All measurements are subject to uncertainty. Because there is no “standard” for 
sites above a specific frequency does not mean that measurements are not 
‘uncertain’. It just means we may not know them in relation to a specific 
standard.  So, while measurement is always “uncertain”, it is basically more 
uncertain simply because we have no established gage to judge them by (yet).  

 

 

​​​​​

Dennis Ward

 

From: Grace Lin [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 4:47 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: [PSES] Measurement Uncertainty Above 18 GHz

 

Dear Members,

 

Is it reasonable to request measurement uncertainty (MU) above 18 GHz?  CISPR 
16-4-2 Edition 2.1 seems only up to 18 GHz.

 

Is there any standard that addresses MU above 18 GHz?

 

Is it reasonable to claim that MU is not applicable for radiated disturbance / 
emission measurement above 18 GHz as there is no site validation standard 
available for frequency above 18 GHz?

 

Thank you very much and I look forward to hearing from you.

 

Best regards,

Grace Lin


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