Everyone, I would opinion that the TV is a broadcast receiver and therefor it falls under RE-D.
Thanks, Michael Sundstrom Garmin Compliance Engineer 2-2606 (913) 440-1540 KB5UKT "We call it theory when we know much about something but nothing works, and practice when everything works but nobody knows why." -- Albert Einstein From: Mike Sherman ----- Original Message ----- [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 9:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Conformity assessment under RED Seems to me that IR does not communicate in the radio frequency range, but BT and RF do, so I would say IR is out of RED scope but BT and RF are within scope. What opinions do others have? Mike Sherman Graco Inc. ________________________________ From: "Scott Xe" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "EMC-PSTC" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 8:21:14 AM Subject: Re: [PSES] Conformity assessment under RED For the traditional TV that comes with an infrared remote controller and latest TV that comes with BT or RF remote controller, does it fall into RED scope? Thanks, Scott From: Scott Xe <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Tuesday, 21 February 2017 at 12:25 AM To: Michael Derby <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [PSES] Conformity assessment under RED Hi Michael, Thanks for your kind reminder! The NB also suggests to use the draft EN 303 345 (best available) for Radio Receivers. One query about TV, as most of digital TVs still have analogue part (although the transmission had been switched off in lots of areas). Is there any additional standard for this part? Regards, Scott From: Michael Derby <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Tuesday, 21 February 2017 at 12:05 AM To: 'Scott Xe' <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: RE: [PSES] Conformity assessment under RED Hi Scott, Please don’t forget that for FM Radio Receivers, the Article 3.2 standard (EN 303 345) is not expected to be cited on the RED OJ until September 2017; so those broadcast sound receivers could not be assessed without the use of a Notified Body. For TV, it could be different because some of the standards (such as EN 303 340) are already listed on the RED OJ. Thanks, Michael. From: Scott Xe [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 19 February 2017 23:00 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PSES] Conformity assessment under RED For TV/Radio receivers and BT/Wifi enabled units, it can use the HSs in RED/LVD/EMC of OJEU without the use of NB as per the interpretation of below. Thanks, Scott On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Michael Derby <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Nick, You are completely correct. Actually, this approach (NB is only needed for deviations in testing to Articles 3.2 and 3.3; but not needed for deviations in testing for 3.1) was apparently the original intention with 1999/5/EC, but it was not correctly or clearly written. 2014/53/EU corrects that. Thanks, Michael. -----Original Message----- From: Nick Williams [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: 04 January 2017 12:18 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [PSES] Conformity assessment under RED Happy New Year, EMC-PSTC listers! 2014/15/EU article 17 separates the conformity assessment procedures for essential requirement 3.1 (safety and EMC) from those which are applied for essential requirements 3.2 and 3.3 (spectrum efficiency and special provisions). Notified Body intervention is required for ER’s 3.2 and 3.3 if the manufacturer has not applied harmonised standards, but no such requirement is applied for ER 3.1. My reading of this is that the manufacturer has complete freedom of approach under RED for safety and EMC compliance in exactly the same way that they do under the LVD and EMC Directive, and can self-certifiy even if they do not apply harmonised standards, irrespective of whether or not they are required to involve a NoBo for compliance with ER’s 3.2 & 3.3. This is not how things worked under 1999/5/EC. Is my interpretation correct, and if not, why not? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> David Heald: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> David Heald: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> David Heald <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> David Heald <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> David Heald <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> David Heald <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be Garmin confidential and/or Garmin legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <[email protected]> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <[email protected]> Mike Cantwell <[email protected]> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> David Heald: <[email protected]>
