I wonder if your customer's triac equipment falls under the EN61000-6-4 (EMC) 
Emission standard for
industrial environments?   I didn't see 61000-3-2 called out in that generic 
standard.

Ralph McDiarmid
Product Compliance
Engineering
Solar Business
Schneider Electric


From: James Pawson (U3C) [mailto:ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:08 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-3-2 Confusion

Hello John,

It uses phase angle control hence the concern about the harmonics generated.
Manufacturer specs are single phase, 230V nominal, 3kW.
Typically used at less than a 15% duty cycle, often less, in an industrial 
environment or powered from a generator.

My *feeling* is that should be classified as professional equipment and 
exempted under Clause 7 but the IEV has 0 search for feelings.

Thanks for your help
James


From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] 
Sent: 11 October 2017 16:49
To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] IEC 61000-3-2 Confusion

I agree that there appears to be a need for clarification, and I will take that 
up with the committee responsible. But for your particular case, what is 
critical is the nature of the 'triac control'. Is it phase-angle control, or 
'burst firing' or something else?
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates http://www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2017-10-11 15:01, James Pawson (U3C) wrote:
Hi folks,
 
I apologise as I seem to be all take and not much give on this forum at the 
moment; I'm trying to do a lot of learning very quickly. Someone ask a question 
about HDMI so that I can feel useful!
 
Today's question is what appears to be a contradiction in IEC 61000-3-2:2014.
 
. The customers equipment is a triac controlled high-power PSU for welding 
plastic parts together using resistance heater coils
. Power is over 1kW and the customer is suggesting that it is "professional 
equipment" which, according to Clause 7, means that harmonic "limits are not 
specified in this standard"
. Flowchart in Clause 7 says that Clause 6.1 for allowed control methods still 
applies even to equipment with no limits
. Clause 6.1 says symmetrical control methods which produce large low order 
harmonics (arguably this applies to triac control) that are used to power 
heating elements (applicable) provided that either input power is less than 
200W (it isn't) or the harmonic limits of Table 3 apply
. Clause 6.1 also says that symmetrical control for professional equipment is 
OK provided one of the "above conditions" is fulfilled (which it is, see 
previous bullet)
 
So we've gone from Clause 7 saying no limits apply to Clause 6 saying that 
Class D equipment limits apply.
However the flowchart in Clause 7 suggests that just by being exempt from 
Clause 7 limits means it automatically conforms to 61000-3-2
 
I feel like I'm going in circles. Does anyone have any insight that might help?
 
Much appreciated,
James
 
 
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