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I'm also not responsible for Ted Airlines.

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I'm certainly not responsible for Ted the movie.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 11:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] Li-Fi



Three observations.

1. would have side-effects somewhat analogous to BPL on EMC. And the up/down 
rate would probably have same problems and delay as satellite internet.

2.  different modality of old tech - remember the science fair projects using 
laser com from bazillions years past?

3. Ted said that he 'discounted' TED talks  (we had thought they were named for 
him).



Some references

0. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_light_communication

1. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-space_optical_communication

2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Fi

3. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RONJA



Brian





From: Edward Price [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 10:44 AM

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [PSES] Li-Fi



I seem to recall HP was touting some kind of optical link system back in the 
90's. (IIRC, it was omni-directional infrared.) I think they were suggesting it 
for sharing of a printer within a multi-computer office, or for linking test 
equipment into a lab's mini-computer.



While I can see some uses where a modulated light source, powerful yet 
inexpensive, would be a good data link, I can also see a few problems, the 
first of which is bi-directionality and the second is data capacity ahead of 
the optical links. As for his hints of vehicular applications, we still haven't 
eliminated rain, smoke and fog.



Call me cynical, but whenever somebody puts a box on stage and does magic 
engineering, I become skeptical. Whaddya mean, you don't want to get into the 
details?



Altogether, Li-Fi is yet another path. Ubiquitous LED's make it more 
attractive, but not quite a standing ovation quality concept.



Ed Price

WB6WSN

Chula Vista, CA USA



-----Original Message-----

From: Ralph McDiarmid [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:21 AM

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [PSES] Li-Fi



I haven't studied it, but seems to me that one would need to modulate the light 
very quickly to get any sort of usable BAUD rate, unless you settle for 
transmission of text only.  (like the good old Bell 202 modems over voice band 
land lines)



Ralph McDiarmid

Product Compliance

Engineering

Solar Business

Schneider Electric





-----Original Message-----

From: Amund Westin [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:51 AM

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: [PSES] Li-Fi



I came over this video ....

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ted.com%2Ftalks%2Fharald_haas_a_breakthrough_new_kind_of_wireless_internet%23t-432451&data=04%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C53bbc3853d4b4b08e89808d540d08fc3%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636486186871774001%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwifQ%3D%3D%7C-1&sdata=0AFeQ9MPw3MwSWo%2BaCYqQBe78ZJio5oj39tnVruEoGU%3D&reserved=0



Anyone who have studied this tech?



Cheers,

Amund

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