Re: [PSES] [BULK] [PSES] Economical operator name & postal address onEEEproducts

Wed, 06 Feb 2019 00:08:04 -0800

I think the setting up of EU 'presences' is contingency planning. There will be uncertainties about empowerment and responsibility even if there is a Brexit 'deal', spread out during and after the transition period. Relations with Brussels are bound to be better if there is an EU presence, whether it's absolutely necessary or not. You are right about the Blue Guide in English, but will it be interpreted in exactly the same way in every EU language? Then there is 'subsidiarity'; member states have some freedom to make local laws. You may remember that imported VCRs had to clear customs in Poitiers (in the middle of France) at one time. Similar situations could occur, and an EU presence would then be invaluable. It doesn't have to have a staff of 100. 

Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

On 2019-02-06 04:37, Scott Xe wrote:


Dear Brian & Scott,

Thanks for your excellent guides for this matter!!
Currently we act as a manufacturer because the product has our own brand although the products are manufactured in China or other third countries outside EU. The technical files are located at our branch offices outside EU but can be retrieved electronically within a short notice. According to the Blue Guide, we do not need to change the name and postal address on the products even thought UK exits EU. However, lots of UK companies are setting up another offices or EU headquarters within EU/EEA such as Sony, Panasonic, Dyson, etc. and leave their UK office for UK market.  Is this action of a finance consideration rather than regulation compliance? 

Regards,

Scott
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Hi Scott,
I echo Brian's recommendation to read the relevant sections of the Blue Guide (2016 version is the latest I believe). You can download it here <https://ec.europa.eu/growth/content/%E2%80%98blue-guide%E2%80%99-implementation-eu-product-rules-0_en>. See section 4.2 on Traceability. It has a detailed description of obligations of different economic operators with regard to identification for market surveillance authorities. This section references 768/2008/EC <https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32008D0768>, which outlines obligations (see Articles R2, R3 and R4 in Annex I).
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:15 AM John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk <mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk>> wrote: 

    The responsibilities of importers and authorized representative
    specified in Directives and Regulations are insufficient to
    qualify as 'responsible person', because the 'responsible person'
    has to know that no changes have been made to the product that
    would affect its compliance. In other words, that person must have
    access to all the manufacturing data for the product.

    Best wishes

    John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

    J M Woodgate and Associateswww.woodjohn.uk  <http://www.woodjohn.uk>

    Rayleigh, Essex UK

    On 2019-02-05 09:44, Scott Xe wrote:

        Dear Brian,

        Thanks for your useful info!  Must the responsible person be
        in EU/EEA countries?  Otherwise the responsible person will
        fall into the importers or authorized resprentatives who is in
        EU/EEA countries?

        Regards,

        Scott

        Scott,

        The short answer to your question is, the name and address of
        the responsible party for placing a product on the EU market
        is required to be on the products. EU documents often refer to
        the responsible party as the “Manufacturer” even though the
        responsible party may not have manufactured the product.

        Read the “Blue Guide” on the implementation of the EU products
        rules 2016/C 272/01 (unless there is a newer version).  It
        does a good job explaining the many possible roles and players
        under the New Legislative Form.

        The Other Brian

        *From:*Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com]
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        *Subject:* [BULK] [PSES] Economical operator name & postal
        address on EEE products
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        Regarding the name & address on EEE products in EU market,
        should they be the manufacturers, importers or authorized
        representatives and which regulation does call for it?

        Thanks and regards,

        Scott

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