John / All Thanks for your comments
A multinational lab/certification company confirmed to me that these devices are exempt from The Plugs and Sockets etc (Safety) Regulations 1994 My thoughts / summary: * These devices would fall under the RED where wireless control / communication was involved so have to be "safe" and meet the protection requirements of the LVD * Standards such as EN 60950-1 and EN 62368-1 reference these UK regulations, but that reference is only valid for items within scope of those regulations * These UK regulations are quite old, and probably didn't envisage wireless communication and control like we have now * A number of these devices appear to be rated as 10A, though with the exception of domestic kettles, I can't think of many products that would draw > 10A from a 240V supply, and even then kettles only draw that current for prolonged periods Regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: www.sulisconsultants.com<https://outlook.hslive.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=02be3bf3e3a544d1bdf7b6c99fbd12f5&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sulisconsultants.com%2f> Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: John Allen <[email protected]> Sent: 12 April 2019 12:15 To: Charlie Blackham <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: RE: [PSES] Exemptions from UK Plugs and Sockets Regulations An interesting question, and, from the text of Schedule 1, I would guess that these are technically excluded (though, for why, I have no idea). In addition, that same exclusion would appear to include all the power line comms devices which use the mains supply network and also any BS1362 sockets with in-built USB power supply modules (and there are a lot of those around nowadays) - OTOH, this made me take a look at the Tp-Link PLC units that I recently bought to extend the LAN to the garage, and the plug sections of those are marked "BS1363". I think that, given the wording of Schedule 1, then any such plu-in devices and/or sockets then must fall back into the scope of the Electrical Equipment Safety Regulations 2016<https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/1101/regulation/3> - or else there is one hell of a hole in the UK legislative framework.! It would be interesting to hear the views of some of the UK Notified Bodies (now still "Notified Bodies" until at least the end of June! :)) on this subject! John E Allen W. London, UK From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 12 April 2019 11:07 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [PSES] Exemptions from UK Plugs and Sockets Regulations Schedule 1 of The Plugs and Sockets etc. (Safety) Regulations 1994<http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1994/1768/schedule/1/paragraph/1/made> states 1. Any plug, socket or adaptor which incorporates any other electrical device (other than a F fuse link, switch or indicator light). Does that mean that "smart plugs" (such as https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=smart+plug&ref=bnav_search_go ) which have wireless controlled switching of the output are exempt from the UK Regulations? Thanks Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Mead House Longwater Road Eversley RG27 0NW UK Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Web: www.sulisconsultants.com<https://outlook.hslive.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=02be3bf3e3a544d1bdf7b6c99fbd12f5&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sulisconsultants.com%2f> Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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