Changing the wording of regulatory labels – while desirable from an efficiency 
standpoint – is risky.
The regulatory labels are baked into legislation and not to be trifled with.

Thanks!

Charles Grasso
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Hi Chester,

In the example you listed here (combining the statements from 15.19(a)(3) of 
the FCC, and RSS-GEN section 8.4), that is perfectly acceptable.

However I cannot speak for some of the other regulatory labelling statements 
around the world.

Quick note for you:

The FCC statement “This device complies with part 15 of the FCC Rules.  
Operation is subject to the following two conditions:  (1) This device may not 
cause harmful interference, and  (2) this device must accept any interference 
received, including interference that may cause undesired operation” should 
appear on the product, unless the product is too small or the labelling area is 
too small, in which case it can appear in the user manual.

The ISED statement has changed a bit since the example you gave below; it is 
now:  “This device contains licence-exempt transmitter(s)/receiver(s) that 
comply with Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada’s 
licence-exempt RSS(s).  Operation is subject to the following two conditions:  
(1) This device may not cause interference.  (2) This device must accept any 
interference, including interference that may cause undesired operation of the 
device.”
….and that is always in the user manual, not on the product.

So, if the FCC statement cannot appear on the product, and it therefore goes in 
the user manual, then it is ok to combine these two statements into one 
statement.

(noting that the Canadian one must be in French too 😊 )

Merci,

Michael.


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From: Chester Summers 
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Sent: 17 October 2019 19:13
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Subject: [PSES] combined regulatory statements

Dear group,

Is it prohibited or frowned upon to combine similar or related regulatory 
statements from different government’s regulatory agencies into one statement 
for efficiency’s sake?
For example, “This product complies with Part 15 of FCC Rules & Industry Canada 
license-exempt RSS-210, RSS-310, etc. …  Operation is subject to the following 
two conditions: (1)This device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) This 
device must accept any interference received, including interference that may 
cause undesired operation.”

In this example Conditions of Operation from FCC and IC (ISED) are nearly 
identical, hence the combined statement on a product label.  Whose statement 
gets relegated to the user manual when product label area is minimal?  What if 
user documentation is extremely limited, such as a single safety 
warning/caution sheet?

Looking for accounts where combining statements like the above caused issues 
with NRTLs or certification inspectors.  Asking for instances outside of North 
America, as well.

Thanks in advance,
Chet Summers



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