Interesting.  And, no, I wasn’t there, either.  I was 6 years old at the time 
and had never heard of CISPR then.  😊

 

Ghery S. Pettit

 

From: Ari Honkala <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 12:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PSES] 80/80 rule

 

I found an interesting old document “CISPR Report of the Plenary Session held 
in The Hague from 18th to 21st November 1958”.

It mentions a Study Question 18 (Brussels 1956): “what method should be used 
when applying limits for radio interference to appliances in large-scale 
production?”

I could not find anything more on this, but it looks like a kick-off for the 
statistical evaluation.

 

And no, I was not there.

 

Regards,

 

Ari Honkala

SESKO

 

From: Ghery S. Pettit [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: maanantai 18. marraskuuta 2019 21.50
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [PSES] 80/80 rule

 

I know it is in VDE 0871/6.78, so it dates back to at least June of 1978.  I 
don’t know about anything prior to that.  VDE 0871/6.78 is also the only place 
I’ve seen a requirement that if a single unit is tested then a 2 dB margin is 
required.

 

Ghery S. Pettit iNCE

Pettit EMC Consulting LLC

 

 

From: John Woodgate <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:47 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [PSES] 80/80 rule

 

I agree: I'm almost certain that it is German in origin, and I'm sure it dates 
back to the 20th Century, possibly as early as 1960.

Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk> 
Rayleigh, Essex UK

On 2019-11-18 19:44, John Shinn wrote:

If my memory serves me right, as I recall, the 80/80 rule was in at least one 
of the VDE standards regarding radiated emissions. I can’t recall the number or 
name. This is going back to the late ‘70s or so.  

 

John Shinn

Retired

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Nov 18, 2019, at 9:55 AM, John Woodgate  <mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]> wrote:

 

Can someone tell me when the 80/80 rule was introduced into CISPR standards and 
if possible, a bit more detail than just the date, please?

-- 
Best wishes
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk> 
Rayleigh, Essex UK

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