Hi Everyone,

 

Thank you for the responses both on and off list, it has been helpful.  Doug, I 
have seen that report but it does not seem to indicate that longer duration 
overvoltages in excess of 300V are commonplace.  I have anecdotally heard that 
power supplies, even if they have past CISPR immunity and IEC 61000 power fault 
testing, can be damaged by longer duration voltage surges that are supposedly 
common in India during load shedding.  Our power supplies do not suffer unusual 
failure rates anywhere in the world and have been through immunity testing 
without any issues, but I have been asked to get them ready for India with the 
warning that we may have problems.  Trying to get some hard facts before I ask 
for a custom SKU only for India.  Right now while the power quality in India 
may be poor, the products are not critical and a power interruption would not 
be a big deal, so it does not seem warranted.

 

Regards,

 

Dan

 

 

From: Douglas Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:59 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Power quality issues in India

 

Dan,

 

Possibly this article will be helpful, 
http://www.forumofregulators.gov.in/Data/Reports/Power07.pdf, check into issues 
like surge, sag, swell and spikes.  

 

It's only a couple of years old. 

 

Doug

 

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On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 11:41 AM sudhakar wasnik 
<0000008dfaa51ca2-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org 
<mailto:0000008dfaa51ca2-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> > wrote:

Dan, Yes, Indian power supply system is quite notorious for surges, voltage 
fluctuations etc. Most of Telecom or other industries beef up Power supply 
system as well as use UPS,

HTH,

Sudhakar wasnik

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On Mar 24, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Wiseman, Joshua 
<joshua.wise...@orthoclinicaldiagnostics.com 
<mailto:joshua.wise...@orthoclinicaldiagnostics.com> > wrote:

 

Dan, in a past life I worked for a company that makes commercial ice cream 
makers like you would see in your local Dairy Queen, McDonalds, Burger King, 
etc.  For India we had to include a UPS for some of our models because the 
power there would give us problems with the controls.  I don’t know the details 
but I do recall adding a UPS option to a newer model unit as recently as 3 yrs 
ago because of it.

 

The UPS took care of the problem for the manufacturer when I worked there.

 

Josh

 

 

From: Dan Roman <00000d75e04ed751-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org 
<mailto:00000d75e04ed751-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> > 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 12:35 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: [PSES] Power quality issues in India

 

EXTERNAL SENDER: Verify links, attachments and sender before taking action

 

Hello List!  Hope everyone is staying healthy and safe.

 

I would like to know if anyone has experience with power quality issues in 
India related to damaging equipment and whether you find it is necessary to 
harden power supply designs specifically for India that you would not normally 
consider for other regions like the EU.  From some reading on the topic there 
seem to be power quality issues but these are largely power interruptions and 
voltage sags that would temporarily cause the product to stop functioning but 
not result in the permanent damage of a global design.

 

I have no recent experience with India but over a decade ago I do not recall 
having any issues with equipment in data centers, but perhaps they had facility 
power conditioning so the local building infrastructure prevented issues.  Is 
the failure rate with typical consumer products higher in India because of 
power quality issues?  Are extra precautions necessary?

 

Thank you.

 

______________________________________________________
Dan Roman, N.C.E.

Senior Member

IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society

mailto:dan.ro...@ieee.org



 

 

 

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