Hi Scott,

please note that Annex III of the EU LVD requires a risk analysis as part of 
the technical documentation 
(https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32014L0035&from=EN#d1e32-370-1).
 So you may either create your own exhaustive risk analysis for your products, 
or claim compliance with the applicable product safety standard EN 62368-1, to 
demonstrate that your complete product does not present a risk and complies 
with the safety objectives of the LVD. If your products include a wireless 
interface or other radio function, it is in the scope of the RED which does not 
have a minimum voltage limit in Article 3, 1(a) 
(https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32014L0053&from=EN#d1e975-62-1).
 Therefore, for equipment powered by extra-low voltage the RED requires 
compliance with the safety objectives of the LVD and the applicable product 
safety standards.

Kind regards,

Bernd

Von: Scott Douglas <sdouglas...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. September 2020 22:52
An: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Betreff: [PSES] Low Voltage Products and EN 62368-1 and -3

Esteemed colleagues,

Question on EN 62368-1 and -3 related to low voltage products.

Products are ITE equipment with power requirement of 5v or 12v DC and less than 
4 amps, sometimes they are powered by PoE. We ship some of these products with 
an external power supply 120/230 V~ input and 5 or 12 VDC output. The EPS 
always have full certifications to normal safety standards including 62368-1. 
Other times we do not include an EPS with the product.

One of our factories is trying to tell us that under IEC/EN 62368-1 or -3, our 
products are required to have safety certifications, that having just the EPS 
certified to 62368-1 is not enough.

We have always said that since these are low voltage products (even the PoE 
ones) that safety certifications are not required for the products themselves.

Has something changed where these type products are now required to have safety 
approvals for the EU or US/Canada markets? Or since they are not directly 
connected to the AC Mains, they do not need safety approvals?

Looking for someone to either confirm my sanity or teach me a new lesson. All 
comments welcome.

Scott

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