Well said!
From: rwell...@wellman.com <rwell...@wellman.com> Sent: 25 June 2021 21:49 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Friday question A man in a hot air balloon realized he was lost. He reduced altitude and spotted a woman below. He descended a bit more and shouted, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am." The woman below replied, "You're in a hot air balloon hovering approximately 30 feet above the ground. You're between 40 and 41 degrees north latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west longitude." "You must be an engineer," said the balloonist. "I am," replied the woman, "How did you know?" "Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is, technically correct, but I've no idea what to make of your information, and the fact is I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help at all. If anything, you've delayed my trip." The woman below responded, "You must be in Management." "I am," replied the balloonist, "but how did you know?" "Well," said the woman, "you don't know where you are or where you're going. You have risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise, which you've no idea how to keep, and you expect people beneath you to solve your problems. The fact is you are in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but now, somehow, it's my fault." From: Brian Kunde <bkundew...@gmail.com <mailto:bkundew...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 12:46 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Friday question https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ship-repair-man-story-why-experts-get-paid-more-faiz-noor/ A giant ship engine failed. The ship’s owners tried one expert after another, but none of them could figure but how to fix the engine. Then they brought in an old man who had been fixing ships since he was young. He carried a large bag of tools with him, and when he arrived, he immediately went to work. He inspected the engine very carefully, top to bottom. Two of the ship’s owners were there, watching this man, hoping he would know what to do. After looking things over, the old man reached into his bag and pulled out a small hammer. He gently tapped something. Instantly, the engine lurched into life. He carefully put his hammer away. The engine was fixed! A week later, the owners received a bill from the old man for ten thousand dollars. “What?!” the owners exclaimed. “He hardly did anything!” So they wrote the old man a note saying, “Please send us an itemized bill. The man sent a bill that read: Tapping with a hammer………………….. $ 2.00 Knowing where to tap…………………….. $ 9,998.00 Effort is important, but knowing where to make an effort makes all the difference! On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 2:59 PM Dennis Ward <00000dbeaa892a40-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org <mailto:00000dbeaa892a40-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> > wrote: A company once made glassware. They could not figure out why it did not hold water. They hired an engineer who told them to put a bottom on the glass. It held water. The manager that hired the engineer left the company and a new manager was hired. He asked why this engineer was hired and did not see the reason for him. So he left and the company went back to making glass ware the old way. To this day, their glasses don’t hold water and they can’t figure out why. Dennis Ward Senior Reviewing Engineer PCTEST Engineering Laboratory, LLC. 7185 Oakland Mills Road Columbia, MD 21045 1 410 290 6652) dennis.w...@pctest.com <mailto:dennis.w...@pctest.com> | www.pctest.com <http://www.pctest.com/> | www.element.com <http://www.element.com/> This communication and any attachment contain information from PCTEST Engineering Laboratory, LLC. and is intended for the exclusive use of the recipient(s) named above. From: Ken Javor <ken.ja...@emccompliance.com <mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com> > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 11:19 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Friday question CAUTION:This email originated from outside of Element Materials Technology. DO NOT click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Please contact IT Service Desk if you are in any doubt about this email. Second hand info. A colleague of mine, Mark Nave, was hired as an EMC engineer by Network Appliance in the early 2000s. He took them to regularly passing the first time through. After awhile, the VP who hired him retired or moved on, and the new VP didn’t have the history of not passing changing to passing. He questioned why they had even hired Mark – what did he do for them? Mark got angry, and left. End of story. 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That is, to achieve a product safety certification from an accredited laboratory with no action items required coming out of the preliminary design review. It's helpful if you can indicate how complex the projects are. In my 26 years as a compliance engineer, I've observed possibly three in total for products with a reasonably high complexity. Thanks! 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