Thank-you Mark,
Best regards, .Richard Georgerian Compliance Engineer HID Global From: Stultz, Mark <00000f79f2e10e47-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2022 8:16 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation. FYI, just needs signed now: Mark Stultz | CMSER | Sealed Air | Automated Packaging Systems | Streetsboro, OH | 330-342-2402 From: Doug Nix <d...@ieee.org <mailto:d...@ieee.org> > Sent: Thursday, 15 December, 2022 12:13 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation. CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Charlie, Agreed. Here's the link to the complete timeline to date: https://statutoryinstruments.parliament.uk/instrument/Iej3CpFt/timeline/z6ts VRFX/ Note that there is nothing on the timeline for the next step in Parliament. Doug Nix d...@ieee.org <mailto:d...@ieee.org> +1 (519) 729-5704 On Dec 15, 2022, at 12:09, Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com <mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com> > wrote: Andy I have no doubt that it will go through into law, but with 16 days to go, it hasn't yet and the .gov website is "only" guidance or intent <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatutory instruments.parliament.uk%2Finstrument%2FIej3CpFt%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmark.stu ltz%40sealedair.com%7C8fe96b6eb1314be6dc4708dadebfb31b%7C2691a2514c384643af0 b0c0982f197bd%7C0%7C0%7C638067212373145164%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiM C4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sd ata=wQLIh1uQgnQEs4w%2BpQ0AUePiz6YeK3m4KCpYTJUoqKQ%3D&reserved=0> https://statutoryinstruments.parliament.uk/instrument/Iej3CpFt/ Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsuliscons ultants.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmark.stultz%40sealedair.com%7C8fe96b6eb1314be6 dc4708dadebfb31b%7C2691a2514c384643af0b0c0982f197bd%7C0%7C0%7C63806721237314 5164%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1 haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=moxkwXbYNjC6SarxLWofUGyyEirMNDtnOi CvUtT0Qc8%3D&reserved=0> https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Andrew Wood <0000170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org <mailto:0000170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> > Sent: 15 December 2022 17:03 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation. Hi Doug The .gov website seems to have been last updated on Nov 14th? Which was when the SI was first laid before parliament. So as you say, they would have been fairly confident of it going through, but in itself doesn't I think signify any particular progress (unless I've misunderstood). Andy Regards, Andrew Wood Compliance Manager - Hazardous Areas <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amete k-land.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmark.stultz%40sealedair.com%7C8fe96b6eb1314be6d c4708dadebfb31b%7C2691a2514c384643af0b0c0982f197bd%7C0%7C0%7C638067212373145 164%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1h aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jrod%2Bgsyd1alFG9f7E%2FIZySZ84ijEUH voSwrcdHi3Y0%3D&reserved=0> <image001.png> Direct: +44 (0) 1246 581592 Address: AMETEK Land, Stubley Lane, Dronfield, Derbyshire. S18 1DJ England E-mail: <mailto:andrew.w...@ametek.com> andrew.w...@ametek.com| Web: <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ametek -land.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cmark.stultz%40sealedair.com%7C8fe96b6eb1314be6dc 4708dadebfb31b%7C2691a2514c384643af0b0c0982f197bd%7C0%7C0%7C6380672123731451 64%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=SLxpddX7onn4MRwH3AXZHw1q8q5lfxIsK2eA I0mnMRo%3D&reserved=0> www.ametek-land.com <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amete k-land.com%2Fcontactus%2Fkeepinguptodate&data=05%7C01%7Cmark.stultz%40sealed air.com%7C8fe96b6eb1314be6dc4708dadebfb31b%7C2691a2514c384643af0b0c0982f197b d%7C0%7C0%7C638067212373145164%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiL CJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ZFBVYcsM pSZcBe9gaymQrYyteZLkBwq4bp0%2FE8LCIDo%3D&reserved=0> <image002.png> From: Doug Nix < <mailto:d...@ieee.org> d...@ieee.org> Sent: 15 December 2022 16:58 To: Andrew Wood < <mailto:andrew.w...@ametek.com> andrew.w...@ametek.com> Cc: <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation. ***NOTICE*** This came from an external source. Use caution when replying, clicking links, or opening attachments. Hi Andrew, Yes, the Lords Grand Committee was "content" with the motion to advance the legislation to the Commons for ratification. I don't have a date on that at this point; however, gov.uk shows that the extension is already in place, so I think that they are confident that it will go forward unchanged. Doug Nix <mailto:d...@ieee.org> d...@ieee.org +1 (519) 729-5704 On Dec 15, 2022, at 11:41, Andrew Wood < <mailto:andrew.w...@ametek.com> andrew.w...@ametek.com> wrote: Thanks Doug. I note from the timeline that it received approval from the Commons on 12th December and the Lords on 13th. Andy Regards, Andrew Wood Compliance Manager - Hazardous Areas <image001.png> Direct: +44 (0) 1246 581592 Address: AMETEK Land, Stubley Lane, Dronfield, Derbyshire. S18 1DJ England E-mail: <mailto:andrew.w...@ametek.com> andrew.w...@ametek.com| Web: www.ametek-land.com <image002.png> From: Doug Nix < <mailto:d...@ieee.org> d...@ieee.org> Sent: 15 December 2022 16:14 To: <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] [Spam] Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation. ***NOTICE*** This came from an external source. Use caution when replying, clicking links, or opening attachments. For thiose interested in watching the debate in the House of Lords, you can watch a recording here: https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/4325a224-3bdd-4b1b-a707-dbb82b7c8f8c?i n=17:20:16 Doug Nix <mailto:d...@ieee.org> d...@ieee.org +1 (519) 729-5704 On Dec 15, 2022, at 10:33, Rick Linford < <mailto:00001e1aaf8064ca-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> 00001e1aaf8064ca-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/using-the-ukca-marking <image001.png> Rick From: Douglas Nix < <mailto:00000bb8ff993b10-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> 00000bb8ff993b10-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 9:34 AM To: <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] [Spam] Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation. CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Andrew and Rick, The next stage is a reading in the House of Lords on Dec. 13. Since the Torys are in a majority government position in the UK, the chances of this SI not passing debate in the House of Lords is probably close to zero. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear as if it will be possible to watch the debate live, although I'm hunting to see if that might be possible. If it is I will post to this thread. Mr. Doug Nix C.E.T. +1 (519) 729 5704 <mailto:d...@mac.com> d...@mac.com <mailto:d...@ieee.org> d...@ieee.org -- "Imaginary evils are incurable." - Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach, Austrian writer On Dec 8, 2022, at 04:46, Andrew Wood < <mailto:0000170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> 0000170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: Apologies Rick Just noticed that I have repeated your question. Andy Regards, Andrew Wood Compliance Manager - Hazardous Areas <image001.png> Direct: +44 (0) 1246 581592 Address: AMETEK Land, Stubley Lane, Dronfield, Derbyshire. S18 1DJ England E-mail: <mailto:andrew.w...@ametek.com> andrew.w...@ametek.com| Web: www.ametek-land.com <image002.png> From: Rick Linford < <mailto:00001e1aaf8064ca-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> 00001e1aaf8064ca-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: 07 December 2022 23:07 To: <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] [Spam] Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation. ***NOTICE*** This came from an external source. Use caution when replying, clicking links, or opening attachments. Hi Doug, Great link, but sorry for my ignorance of UK governance. To be clear this was a committee approval, it still needs to be approved by full House of Commons and the House of Lords before it is law, is that correct? Does it require Prime Minister's signature? @ Lauren Crane thanks for getting this started. The proverb about teaching a man(person) to fish comes to mind. And yet I still asked questions. Rick From: Douglas Nix < <mailto:00000bb8ff993b10-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> 00000bb8ff993b10-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 8:19 AM To: <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [Spam] Re: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation. CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Andrew, Colleagues, I watched the proceeding today, and the proposal received acceptance after some debate. If you missed it, you can view the recording here: https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/072dac0e-318e-403b-bd0c-29d3834427dd#p layer-tabs/. It's also possible to download a recording for those that want to obsess over the details. There is no further clarity on plans for the future beyond the extension of the mandatory implementation date. Doug Nix <mailto:d...@mac.com> d...@mac.com "The way to solve the conflict between human values and technological needs is not to run away from technology. That's impossible. The way to resolve the conflict is to break down the barriers of dualistic thought that prevent a real understanding of what technology is - not an exploitation of nature, but a fusion of nature and the human spirit into a new kind of creation that transcends both." - Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, Robert M. Pirsig On Dec 6, 2022, at 05:12, Andrew Wood < <mailto:0000170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> 0000170ccaf92990-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: Lauren, Thanks for this info. Having browsed around the parliament website a little, I have found that the SI has it's own webpage and appears to be scheduled for another committee meeting tomorrow at 2.30pm (that will be GMT) that is available to watch on parliament.tv. >From the link you gave https://commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/ scroll down to other business on the left and select 3rd item down Statutory Instruments, enter "metrology" in the search box and the top hit is this SI. Clicking through brings up the webpage which opens by default on "details". Click the timeline tab just above dates laid and notice a debate scheduled for tomorrow 7th December. Clicking on that brings you to this page: https://committees.parliament.uk/event/16420 Hope this might be of interest. Andy Regards, Andrew Wood Compliance Manager - Hazardous Areas <image001.png> Direct: +44 (0) 1246 581592 Address: AMETEK Land, Stubley Lane, Dronfield, Derbyshire. S18 1DJ England E-mail: <mailto:andrew.w...@ametek.com> andrew.w...@ametek.com| Web: www.ametek-land.com <image002.png> From: Lauren Crane < <mailto:00001afd08519f18-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> 00001afd08519f18-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: 02 December 2022 22:17 To: <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation ***NOTICE*** This came from an external source. Use caution when replying, clicking links, or opening attachments. For those keeping score at home on when the UKCA 2yr extension legislation is actually passed, this is how I am tracking Goto https://commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/ Click on HTML or PDF version of "Daily Order Paper" in the "Today's business papers" section. Search on "Metrology" and you should quickly (or eventually) land on information titled "Secretary Grant Shapps That the draft Product Safety and Metrology (Amendment and Transitional Provisions) Regulations 2022, which were laid before this House on 14 November, be approved." If you look today, you can see it is now "remaining order 36". It was "remaining order 41" on November 28. Best Regards, -Lauren LAM RESEARCH CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files, or previous e-mail messages attached to it, (collectively, "E-mail Transmission") may be subject to one or more of the following based on the associated sensitivity level: E-mail Transmission (i) contains confidential information, (ii) is prohibited from distribution outside of Lam, and/or (iii) is intended solely for and restricted to the specified recipient(s). 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