Brian

Use of X cap after bridge rectifier is not required. There exist OSM decision 
that clarifies this.

Y caps are required in complete primary circuit towards PE.

I hope this helps.

Best regards
Boštjan Glavič
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Hi Brian:

I found these explanations on the web:  
https://www.tecategroup.com/products/capacitors/ac-safety-capacitors.php

X Capacitors: Also known as "across-the-line capacitors." Class X safety 
capacitors are used between the "live" wires carrying the incoming AC current. 
These capacitors are used in applications where failure of the capacitor will 
not lead to risk of electrical shock to the user. A capacitor failure in this 
position will usually cause a fuse or circuit breaker to open.

Y Capacitors: Also known as "line-to-ground capacitors" (line bypass). Y 
capacitors are used in applications where failure of the capacitor could lead 
to the danger of electrical shock to the user, if the ground connection is lost.

Filter caps are on the load (DC output) side of the rectifier.  The pulse 
(charging) current through the capacitors returns to the rectifier, and then to 
the AC line.  While one side of the filter caps is often connected to ground, 
very little pulse current returns to the AC line via the equipment PE wire.

Because the filter caps are not directly across the line, they are not X 
capacitors.

Failure of a filter cap is usually mitigated by a fuse in the AC line.

For further information on X (and Y) caps, see IEC 60384-14.

Hope this helps.  Best regards,
Rich


From: Brian Kunde <bkundew...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 9:24 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] X-Caps after Diode Bridge

We use X2 caps in RF filters prior to the Diode Bridge.  Do filter caps after 
the Diode Bridge (DC), but before the isolation transformer,  have to be X2?  
How about filter caps to Chassis/PE after the Bridge? Do they have to be Y-caps?

Thanks,
The Other Brian

PS: We typically buy power supplies, so I am not familiar with the downstream 
requirements.
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