Hi,
I suppose the answer is maybe. Use a wimpy spindle motor and detect  
the loading when in quits cutting air and starts cutting pumpkin.  
This assumes a rotary tool.
For a chisel, knife use the increased force necessary to drive the Z  
when the cutter hits the pumpkin.
Maybe (cheap and easy).

Dave

On Jan 29, 2007, at 3:23 PM, Michael Dubno wrote:

> Try this link for the image -
> http://www.dubno.com/pictures/misc/pumpkin1.jpg.html
>
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> Dubno
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 6:01 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Is there an easy way to work
> withanirregularsurface?
>
> The problem gets even more elaborate and potentially more constrained.
>
> First, when most people carve a pumpkin they don't worry about the
> depth. Unfortunately, I don't usually carve like most people  
> *grin*.  I
> actually vary the depth of the cut.  Sometimes I use a Dremel,  
> sometimes
> chisels, the result is fairly cool - the light shows through and the
> results are quite pretty. I've enclosed a picture or a hand carved
> pumpkin done without varying the depth.
>
> Second, the correct solution may be to create a subtractive depth  
> map of
> the pumpkin but there is a cost constraint imposed by the target
> audience. I would like to submit the mechanism to my friends at MAKE
> magazine. Their projects are generally very low cost. While my  
> personal
> preference would be to use high-tolerance motion stages, simple  
> surplus
> helical screws will be used with drawer-slides instead!
>
> Except for the motor drivers and PC, I'm pretty sure an entire (albeit
> low-tolerance) machine could be created for less than $200. I view  
> this
> as one more "fun" dimension to the project.
>
> Third, someone pointed out that the more information you give the  
> better
> the answers you get. There is much truth to the comment. But there is
> also something to boiling down the problem. Sorry for not  
> explaining all
> of the constraints up front.
>
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> Lerman
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 5:17 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Is there an easy way to work
> withanirregularsurface?
>
> When I carve a pumpkin by hand, I don't worry about the depth. I  
> jab my
> knife all the way to the center. Then I remove the piece I've outlined
> the
> perimeter of.
>
> Ken
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> Radek
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 12:31 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Is there an easy way to work with
> anirregularsurface?
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 11:38:13AM -0500, Michael Dubno wrote:
>> To be honest, I am trying to make an automated pumpkin carving
> machine.
>> The mechanism would be a custom built rotary stage and a horizontal
> arm
>> mounted on a vertical post.  (Custom built because I don't want
> pumpkin
>> goo all over my metal mills). Obviously all pumpkins come in  
>> different
>> shapes and sizes and they also have ridges. I would like to use
> existing
>> software to convert images and patterns into g-code. A small program
> to
>> post process the g-code before it is run would be easy for me to
> write.
>> The idea of a cutting tool who's depth is controllable being held in
>> place by a spring loaded "follower" or "leader" might work out as
> well.
>> I suppose the resolution of the pattern might make a difference.
>> I think the way to look at the problem is 2 1/2 axis or 3 axis. Treat
>> rotation as x, the vertical axis as y and the cutter as z.
>> Thanks for all of the suggestions, they are quite helpful.
>> - Mike
>
> Thanks for being brave and telling us what you are doing, it sounds
> really fun.
>
> This reminds me of the torch height controller Dallur made.  The
> basic problem is to have a height sensor, and make your requested Z
> relative to that height.
>
> I'm picturing that you could sense height with a spring loaded arm
> with a roller on the end.  You'd have the roller "close" to the tool,
> and the arm pivots on an encoder.  If the arm is relatively long, the
> movement of the end will be fairly linear.  You would derive height
> from the encoder counts.
>
> At the HAL layer, you would add this to EMC's requested Z.  (You may
> have to subtract it back out for feedback to the motion controller.)
> That way Z becomes relative to the pumpkin surface.  Now your gcode
> is very simple...
>
> Chris
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