Yep, got the same t-shirt.  But given a choice, I will use a non-M$ 
based products!

tomp wrote:
> Kent A. Reed wrote:
>   
>> Gentle persons:
>>
>> I quite understand the desire to find CAD software that (1) is free as 
>> in beer and (2) runs directly in Linux. I yield to no one in my ardor 
>> for open source in general and GNU/Linux in particular. As I grow older, 
>> however, I find that pragmatism is overtaking idealism. With respect to 
>> CAD, two other characteristics are becoming paramount: (1) how easy is 
>> it for me to use a particular program without fuss and bother to design 
>> precise mechanical parts and (2) how easy is it for me to extract the 
>> design in a usable format. With respect to these characteristics, and 
>> especially the latter, I have blown hot and cold over various 
>> open-source CAD applications.
>>
>> Let me discuss a alternative that is not open source but can be free to 
>> the user.
>>
>> In the MS Windows domain, there is a very competent commercial 3D solid 
>> modeller called Alibre Design, for which there is a free lite version 
>> called Alibre Design Express (see http://www.alibre.com for details). In 
>> the years before I retired, I was an early adopter of Alibre Design to 
>> create some mechanical parts and assemblies in an underfunded project 
>> because the package was much less expensive than its competitors like 
>> SolidWorks, SolidEdge, ProEngineer, or Autodesk Inventor for similar 
>> features. The free Alibre Design Express has some restrictions, of 
>> course, but it retains the good user interface and the ability to export 
>> 3D models in well-known formats like IGES, SAT, and STEP that can be 
>> post-processed easily. (For that matter, if you've got the $$, Alibre 
>> has recently released a companion CAM package and also a woodworking 
>> package. They also have various offers for "at home" use of their 
>> non-free packages that I haven't explored.) 
>>
>> I run Alibre Design Express on a Windows XP box to design parts. I 
>> haven't tried to run it over WINE on a Linux box, but then the el-cheapo 
>> boxes I have running Linux have neither the horsepower or the graphics 
>> capability needed anyway. Although my Windows XP box is reasonably well 
>> equipped and set up to dual boot into several different Linux 
>> distributions, it seems pointless to try running Alibre Design Express 
>> within a virtual Windows XP environment in Linux for the obvious reason 
>> that it's already running fine in Windows XP. Naturally, your situation 
>> may be entirely different but if you haven't tried this product I think 
>> you should.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kent
>>
>>
>> PS - Leaving aside its user interface, SALOME GEOM has very good data 
>> import/export capability because it was intended to support 
>> "interoperability between CAD modeling and computation software," its 
>> internal geometry functions are excellent, and, wonder of wonders, it 
>> exposes all its functions via a Python API, so I'm thinking seriously 
>> about how I could use it for script-driven as opposed to gui-driven 
>> design. Alibre Design and its commercial competitors expose a good deal 
>> of their functionality using MS Windows technologies such as COM and 
>> .NET, so one could drive them via Python as well, but somehow that's not 
>> as alluring to me.
>>
>> PPS - FreeCAD (no, not that one, the other one; see 
>> http://juergen-riegel.net/FreeCAD/Docu/index.php?title=Main_Page) might 
>> become the open-source 3D modeling application of choice, but it's still 
>> very early in its development and many claimed features appear to be 
>> planned rather than actual. The home page is peppered with phrases like 
>> "will have..." and "will be...."
>>
>> PPPS - I have no connection with Alibre or any other CAD-application 
>> provider.
>>
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> haha
>
> "I find that pragmatism is overtaking idealism."
>
> i wear a button that says
>
> "My karma ran over my dogma"
>
> (pushing 60 and not so idealistic now)
>
> regards
> TomP
>
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