Hello Aram,

I live in the Portland, OR area, and I think you do as well. I have read the
issues you are experiencing lately. I will be happy to show you how I program
EMC2. I am using the features that cause you trouble without any problem.

Please feel free to contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], should you want to meet 
with me
in NE Portland.

Best Regards,

Patrice
Portland, OR










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> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:32:46 -0600
> From: Jeff Epler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] AUTO mode ERROR?
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> I have verified that saving a "Text" or "Text Encoded" file from
> openoffice 2.4 is incompatible with emc.  openoffice writes something at
> the beginning of the file called a "unicode byte order mark"; don't
> worry if you don't understand what that means, but *do* understand that
> openoffice will apparently not save files in the form required by emc.
>
> Use a text editor (not a word processor or typesetting program like
> openoffice write).  gedit is a text editor that should be installed on
> an ubuntu machine, and many people use it successfully to write gcode
> programs.
>
> Jeff
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> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:45:35 -0500
> From: John Kasunich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pic a servo
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> Jon Elson wrote:
> > John Kasunich gives an excellent response, but didn't mention
> > connectors.
>
> Actually, I did, in some detail:
>
> >> There is a minimum cost for just about any electronic "thing" made
> >> in small quantities.  It comes from the bare PC board, cables,
> >> connectors, bypass capacitors, and other basic parts.
> >>
> >> For example, a quick search at Digikey says that the cheapest
> >> (qty 1) parport connector (25 pin D-shell) is $2.62.  So the
> >> connector alone costs more than the PIC.  And that doesn't even
> >> start to address the connectors on the other end - going to the
> >> encoder and motor or drive.
>
> You provide some good detail though - of the $97 total parts cost, only
> $12, or just a hair over one-eighth of the total, is the main "brain".
> It seems like nobody ever thinks about the other seven-eighths when
> these projects are being discussed.
>
> I want to see these projects succeed as much as anyone - but you MUST
> focus on the big ticket items.  "Servo under $100" needs a clever way to
> reduce the "overhead" costs of board, connectors, and packaging, much
> more than it needs a suitable packet format.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Kasunich
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:00:53 -0700
> From: rtwas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Emc-users] standalone installation packages
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> Hello,
>
> I'm quite dismayed that there aren't standalone packages for Emc2. Most
> projects have
> RPM's (or something) available that allow one to upgrade installed
> packages without having a direct
> connection to the internet.
>
> **I read "4.3. without an internet connection"...OMG!**
>
> Any chance of this feature becoming available to Emc2?
>
> Robert W.
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:53:55 -0700 (MST)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] AUTO mode ERROR?
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\)"
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> Hi
> I used g editor and new error ? bad character ?134682144 sed?
> Program was
> %
> G17 G20 G40 G80 G49
> G57 G90 G1 F5. X0 Y0 Z0
> G91 X-1.5 F3.
> %
>
> The other problem is that ? line 4 out of range because x-1.5
> When I change x-1.5 to x1.5  machine start read only last line.
> Why emc2 does not read G57 G90 G1 F5. X0 Y0 Z0?
>
> Can I move cursor and start from specific line?
> Thanks
> aram
>
> > I have verified that saving a "Text" or "Text Encoded" file from
> > openoffice 2.4 is incompatible with emc.  openoffice writes something at
> > the beginning of the file called a "unicode byte order mark"; don't
> > worry if you don't understand what that means, but *do* understand that
> > openoffice will apparently not save files in the form required by emc.
> >
> > Use a text editor (not a word processor or typesetting program like
> > openoffice write).  gedit is a text editor that should be installed on
> > an ubuntu machine, and many people use it successfully to write gcode
> > programs.
> >
> > Jeff
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:59:19 -0600
> From: Jon Elson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pic a servo
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
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> John Kasunich wrote:
> > Jon Elson wrote:
> >
> >> John Kasunich gives an excellent response, but didn't mention
> >> connectors.
> >>
> >
> > Actually, I did, in some detail:
> >
> Agreed, you definitely did mention at least one, specifically!  But, a
> multi-axis servo control will have multiple connectors, and the cost
> just adds up.  On some of the higer-end boards I make, in the PPMC
> series, the connectors are over 50% of the total board cost.  These are
> 2-part, screw-terminal connectors, and can run $15 per pair.  (On
> others, some of the special chips are still dominant.)
> > You provide some good detail though - of the $97 total parts cost, only
> > $12, or just a hair over one-eighth of the total, is the main "brain".
> > It seems like nobody ever thinks about the other seven-eighths when
> > these projects are being discussed.
> >
> Absolutely, when you dive into one of these projects, all you think
> about are the components that actually do the work.
> And, you never think about the labor or machines to assemble it until
> you have a blank board in hand.  The PC board and the connectors don't
> do any actual "work", they just make it possible to produce in quantity
> and hook up easily.
> > I want to see these projects succeed as much as anyone - but you MUST
> > focus on the big ticket items.  "Servo under $100" needs a clever way to
> > reduce the "overhead" costs of board, connectors, and packaging, much
> > more than it needs a suitable packet format.
> >
> Yup, I'm going broke trying to compete with Mariss Freimanis of Gecko,
> who has REAL economy of scale on his side.
>
> If the $100 is for a home-made milled PCB you put together yourself, it
> is quite possible, but that will take a lot of time to make the board,
> assemble and debug.  Also, the vagaries of switching power designs (not
> something I have to explain to John, this is for other readers) can have
> even an experienced designer going in circles for months.  Check out the
> trials of the UHU servo board, which was an open-source hardware project
> that took several years to get a working unit at the design power
> level.  (The UHU is not open-source software, though, just to be precise.)
> So, home builders should beware, hooking up a couple FET driver chips
> and a PIC is not likely to get you a servo running in a weekend.
>
> Jon
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:13:40 +0200
> From: "Roland Jollivet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pic a servo
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
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> 2008/11/21 Jon Elson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > John Kasunich wrote:
> > > Jon Elson wrote:
> > >
> > >> John Kasunich gives an excellent response, but didn't mention
> > >> connectors.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Actually, I did, in some detail:
> > >
> > Agreed, you definitely did mention at least one, specifically!  But, a
> > multi-axis servo control will have multiple connectors, and the cost
> > just adds up.  On some of the higer-end boards I make, in the PPMC
> > series, the connectors are over 50% of the total board cost.  These are
> > 2-part, screw-terminal connectors, and can run $15 per pair.  (On
> > others, some of the special chips are still dominant.)
>
>
> Use push-on spade terminals. They work fine for washing machines and
> automobiles (25A!). Or lay-on solder strips at the edge of the board.
>
> Regards
> Roland
>
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