On Nov 24, 2008, at 3:26 AM, Jack Coats wrote:

> I checked out the various ITX cards, and they all have one flaw, video
> on board, and sometimes
> no parallel port, or way to put a 'bus' on them.  Video, ethernet,
> parallel or other interface
> on-board makes for a non-optimum selection IMHO.  Small size is nice,
> but being able to swap
> out a board with something off the shelf is important to non-hobby  
> shops.
>
> But the ITX boards are fascinating.  As you go from the larger to the
> smaller, their price goes
> up quickly, from what I have seen.
>
> Erik Christiansen wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 07:15:04PM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote:
>>
>>> My two cents. I'd like to see what could be done with just a CPU,  
>>> RAM,
>>> Ethernet and GPIO, doing just the real time stuff. Maybe with four
>>> channels of signals for BLDC motors. One problem though is that  
>>> for a
>>> board like this, you can get a whole PC for less money. Too bad  
>>> cheap
>>> wifi routers don't have lots of GPIO. Making 200,000 EMC2 motion  
>>> boards
>>> _would_ bring the unit cost down.
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> For some time now, I've been checking each LinuxDevices newsletter  
>> for
>> potentially suitable new mini-ITX cards. I've been looking for RS485
>> too, because that'd be great for intra-machine communication, if
>> satellite microcontollers are ever added, e.g. for a tool changer.  
>> (The
>> noise immunity of balanced line, and immunity to significant DC  
>> offset,
>> are both invaluable in the machine environment. It's also more  
>> real-time
>> than the buffered USB appears to be.)
>>
>> Fanless would be best, perhaps, so the enclosure could be sealed.
>>
>> Even if "just the real time stuff" is sufficiently modular to be  
>> run on
>> an SBC, it would be a lot of work to port e.g. eCos as underlying  
>> RTOS.
>> (I've only ever done that once, and am glad I was paid for it. ;-)
>>
>> Still, having a reference "EMC2 RT Platform" would eliminate parport
>> and other hardware compatibility worries. In time. But planning is  
>> the
>> first step.
>>
>> Erik
>>
>>
> IIRC Ray Henry is using some mini-itx boards with a C7 processsor  
> and VIA's Unichrome(?) video. Apparently the on-board video
> does not seriously interfere with the rt performance. It might be  
> worth having Ray relate his experience.
>
> Dave
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