>someone wrote
> "Purchasing Synergy is simple. Just contact Weber Systems, let them know
> you are interested, and our applications engineers will take it from
> there.
> 
> They will make sure that you get exactly the kind of installation,
> setup, support package, and software that is best for you and your
> company."
> 
> At what price though?

Actually, I had the same reaction and asked why there was no posted price and 
said it made me 
distrustful and I said something to the effect of a Maxium I once wrote:

Merchandise offered without price,
is sure to cost more than it is worth.  -kps

His reply is that if he posts a price- the next day BobCAD sets a price $1 less 
etc.
Weber Systems is wrong in their philosophy(I'm an objectivist<g>). There is a 
move all over the 
place to charge different people different amounts - even Amazon.com is doing 
this - they look at 
what books you bought in the past - how many you did not buy and then set a 
price just for you. The 
same goods at discount chain stores will have different prices in different 
neighbor hoods. In the 
end these practices anger customers - make the customers feel they were taken 
and comes off as 
sleazy - but for right now the public hasn't caught on.

So the bottom line is you can probably get a very good price if you haggle with 
Weber Systems - they 
just don't want the public to know the street price.

BobCAD on the other hand, was using marketing practices that smell of 
Scientology and there seems to 
be a consensus that the software stinks.

All these software vendors seem to take this approach: get people in very cheap 
- the real 
investment is learning the software - once you have that sunk cost you are 
unlikely to change and 
you will pay dearly for new features. I once had a circuit-board CAD package - 
paid yearly support 
so I would get all the new features - they came out with new features, but 
pretended it was a new 
program - if I wanted to upgrade I would have to fork out thousands more.

The best thing about Synergy is it was originally written for unix and now 
Linux so there is no 
problem running it on the same box as EMC.

They could own the market if they went open-source and sold support. A lot of 
CAD/CAM programs end 
up pirated because the cost is really too high and people feel they have been 
screwed. They don't 
get any money from the ones that steal the software so the price gets even 
higher - if it was open 
and they were selling support, there is a different money stream, chances to 
broker design services 
- sell related equipment with support site adds.

In the end, most of these closed source packages will either become incredibly 
specialized or  die - 
open source projects are advancing - in the circuit board world there is now 
kicad - and it is now 
better than many of the commercial packages.



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Karl Schmidt                                  EMail k...@xtronics.com
Transtronics, Inc.                              WEB http://xtronics.com
3209 West 9th Street                             Ph (785) 841-3089
Lawrence, KS 66049                              FAX (785) 841-0434

Postmodernism: nihilism in drag. -kps

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