John,

        Yup, that's the one I had too.  The ATI driver just doesn't seem to 
play well with OpenGL.  It worked sorta okay with the regular programs, 
but I noticed drop-outs in the screen, weirdness when it tried to 
display text while scrolling down the page in the web browser, and a 
bunch of other little nits that tended to drive me nuts on the machines 
I was using.  And the ATI driver really borked the display on this 10.04 
machine I use here at work.  Switching over to an nVidia card was like 
night and day.  I now have none of the problems on this machine that I 
had before.  I should have originally said that the ATI issues didn't 
really start up till I upgraded my work machine to version 9, and it 
continued with the current version 10.  The ATI seemed to work ok with 
version 7 and version 8, but from then on it was nothing but problems. 
I'm assuming either ATI or the other developers will eventually have a 
decent driver that will work with version 10, but I didn't want to wait 
till they came up with that, and it was  pretty painless switch to the 
nVidia card.

Mark

On 07/06/2010 09:27 AM, John Dunn wrote:
> Hi Mark, the graphics card i'm using is the ATI Rage it's an old one
> from early  year 2000 and i've used it successfully with ubuntu from
> 7.04 up to 8.04, but it doesn't seem to like EMC2 so I may have to think
> about replacing it. I think the main difference is EMC2 is working in
> real time. If it was too easy it wouldn't be so much fun.;-) Cheers John
> Dunn
>
> On 6 July 2010 11:38, Mark Wendt <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     On 07/05/2010 09:25 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>      > John Dunn wrote:
>      >> hi john,I did notice when I ran glxgears that the cursor was
>     solid black
>      >> which accounts for the black cursor in my description, and the
>     frame rate on
>      >> the left hand side dropped from over 4000 to about 600 when I
>     enlarged the
>      >> gear picture to full screen which sounds as if it ran out of
>     steam. cheers
>      >>
>      > The speed drop is no surprise, only high-end 3-D cards like
>     nVidia can
>      > do full-screen 3-D
>      > with no speed penalty.
>      >
>      > If the cursor or other things are messed up when an openGL app is
>      > running, you may not be
>      > running the proper video driver.  There might be a special driver for
>      > the ATI card.  In some
>      > cases it is best to turn off all the special driver acceleration
>      > features and use direct software
>      > rendering for EMC/Axis.  The 3-D preview screen doesn't really
>     use a lot
>      > of resources, so
>      > the penalty of software rendering is not great, and this sometimes
>      > clears up odd problems
>      > like you may be having.
>      >
>      > Jon
>
>     I gave up on using ATI video cards in my Ubuntu machines.  ATI does have
>     a proprietary driver you can get, but I experienced a ton of problems on
>     8.04 and 10.04 with it, and the generic ATI drivers weren't much better.
>       I ended up, like Jon mentioned below, with an nVidia card and my
>     problems went away.
>
>     Mark
>
>     
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