On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Greg Bentzinger <[email protected]>wrote:

> Stuart and friends;
>
> I have been thinking about this manual MPG rigid tapping and while its
> fairly straight forward on a normal 3 axis mill or 2 axis lathe there needs
> to be more for 5 axis applications. Strange that Stuart didn't mention it.
>
Yes that is VERY strange - I was !!!! thinking !!!!! it. :)

>
> I think it might require a new custom G & M code that would lock motion to
> be perpendicular to the hole's plane. Pardon I'm hunting for the best way to
> describe this.
>
The G and M codes are functional in EMC2. Use the W axis and the Cinci will
drill along the spindle at whatever angle the A and B are programmed.

>
> A 5 axis machine with the tool tilted in the AB axis would define the hole
> plane to be perpendicular to the tool in 2 axis. This would define the
> movement of the spindle.
>
The Cinci does not have a quill - EMC2 moves XY and Z to simulate a W axis
and moves the spindle along it's axis.
>
>
> The other issue being like Stuart mentioned, This will require a very high
> count encoder and a very strong and responsive spindle. This option is not
> for mediocre equipment.
>
The encoder count must be high for the spindle to be useful as a C axis. I
believe the Enshu spindle will NOT be useful as a C axis but it will be able
to rigid tap with the MPG. I will move the spindle using the MPG and use
EMC2 to drive the Z axis coordinated with the spindle. I have the spindle
tuned in one configuration. It is very solid.

>
> Now - I was told my uncles (my toy) Mori Seiki SV50 can do this, you must
> just switch to IPR vrs IPM and do a M19 G84 Fxxxx.
>
What control does the SV50 have? I would like to see/try it.
My 5 axis bridge (XYZ w/BC head) with Fanuc 15M will MPG drill along the
spindle (simulating a W axis). It will MPG mill along the U and V axes as
well. This requires no programming. The position of the BC head allows the
control to orient the motion the the UVW axes. The UV motion has not proven
useful. The drilling along the spindle axis is useful that is why I am
wanting to MPG tap along the spindle. I have not tried tapping with the
bridge. I see no way to control the spindle. I don't believe EMC2 will move
the UVW axes with the MPG. I believe it is being worked on but I am not
sure. Clarification would be greatly appreciated.

>
> The 30hp spindle will allow a M03 S0001, and I dare you to try and stop
> that spindle even at 1 RPM.
>
Its great to have plenty of overkill power on tap. (pardon the pun)
>
The Enshu spindle is 50 taper - 7.5KW (10 hp). The two speed gearbox allows
it to generate a lot of torque in low gear. I have seen it mill a 6 inch X
10 inch window in a 6 inch thick plate of steel in one pass. We drilled an
oversize hole through the plate (in a corner of the window) and used a 1
inch X 8 inch LOC roughing mill. It cut the full depth and dropped out the
window in one pass. I think it will be strong enough and rigid enough to tap
a hole with the MPG.

>
> Greg
>
> thanks
Stuart

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