On 11/16/2011 3:06 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 15.11.11 19:30, perotter wrote:
>    
>> Some DATRON mills are polymer-concrete. I think they are concrete with
>> a polymer used like rebar would be. I also think that all of the 1st
>> ones were concrete, but some are now granite.These mill are for high
>> speed milling.
>>      
> When I visited ANCA, a couple of decades ago, they just called it
> "cement-filled plastic", I think. (Or perhaps that's just as much as I
> understood at the time.) But now their website also talks of
> polymer-concrete. So it's been in use in the CNC machine tool industry
> for at least 20 years, then.
>
> For us, it might be easier to build machines with a fabricated steel
> exterior, filled with epoxy-granite. The effect should be similar, I
> think. (The method seems to be popular with users of micro-mills,
> especially poured down the column.)
>
> Epoxy has another use in machine building, e.g. for installing ballscrew
> end bearings. The mounting holes can be bored oversize, the ballscrews
> aligned, and epoxy used to fix the bearings, in a more modern
> alternative to the babbit metal method used in the 1916 example in
> Kirk's OP. (Building a solid but imprecise base, then adding precision
> by later alignment, has a lot of appeal for a DIY machine.)
>
> Erik
>
>    

Looks like most of the Datron mills actually have solid granite bases - 
most of them are not a composite polymer-granite dust mix.

I have bought some epoxy resin to repair boat hulls and the best price I 
can find for non-blushing epoxy resin is about $75 per gallon including 
the hardener with shipping.
So a gravel/epoxy composite or granite dust/expoxy composite frame is 
going to be a lot more expensive than basic concrete which is going for 
about $150 per cubic yard around here delivered in a mix truck.

Making an epoxy/gravel composite would also take some experimenting as 
epoxy tends to self  heat as it is sets and it can get very hot.   I 
have no idea how they control curing in thicker structures with
epoxy.  I have had a cup of mixed epoxy get so hot, that I was not able 
to hold onto to it.  (too much activator in the mix).   The hotter it 
gets during a cure, the faster it sets so it can become a tail chasing 
exercise on thicker parts.
That is why most boat hulls are laid up in thin layers - usually less 
than 1/8th inch per layer.

Andy....  I think we got these old imperial measurements from you 
guys!     Apparently we are rather resistant to change.    But I'm still 
waiting for the UK to adopt the Euro...any day now .. right??    ;-)

Dave

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