On Friday, January 13, 2012 09:57:56 AM Mark Wendt did opine: > On 01/12/2012 04:17 PM, gene heskett wrote: > > On Thursday, January 12, 2012 03:53:27 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: > >> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > >>>> On Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:43:08 PM andy pugh did opine: > >>>>> On 12 January 2012 07:22, gene heskett<ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote: > >>>> [...] > >>>> > >>>>> Have you tried DesignSpark under Wine? > >>>>> Though gEDA might be a better bet, being native Linux. (I have > >>>>> never tried it) > >>>> > >>>> I have looked at gEDA and it shows promise, but it needs to grow > >>>> some std method of sizing the parts to an agreed upon std > >>>> measurement method. When the parts library is 100% contributor > >>>> generated, no two parts seem to be drawn to the same scale or > >>>> orientation. > >>> > >>> If one can use it often enough to keep current, maybe once a week, I > >>> find gEDA much easier to use than Eagle. Eagle has an extensive > >>> library, but I suspect that is because it takes a PhD in Eagle to > >>> create them, so an interested party made sure the popular symbols > >>> were available. To me, gEDA makes symbol creation easy enough to > >>> just make them as needed. I do miss having rules of thumb for > >>> pleasing and useful symbols, but I've been able to make mine good > >>> enough for who they are for. Plus one can place and rotate the > >>> symbol and connected text on the fly, which from my experience > >>> Eagle doesn't do. > >>> > >>> I haven't made any circuit board g-code using gEDA, so I can't speak > >>> to that. > >> > >> Like you I tried several circuit board design tools and settled on > >> gEDA suite Easy to learn, very configurable, and lots of symbols at > >> www.gedasymbols.org I have made a few boards, some using isolation > >> engraving and some (I really like) using my mill to hold a sharpie > >> pen to draw the traces and remove the excess copper with hcl and > >> hydrogen peroxide Then wash off the ink with a solvent > >> Cheap and I get the hcl just around the corner > >> Also you can flip the board over and use the mill and sharpie the > >> draw the silk mask > >> > >> Richard > > > > I'll take a look, it's complete kit is installing on that shiny new > > 250Gb drive now. > > > > And still no opto-interrupter devices with a logic output. But > > generally I get the impression that its much improved. IIRC it was > > gerbview that had the export in various formats option before, but I > > don't find that option now. Memory, tain't always what it once was. > > :( > > > > Cheers, Gene > > Has anybody tried the Visolate software or pcb2gcode utilities? > Visolate is a gui java program for converting gerber files to gcode and > pcb2gcode is a command line utility that does the same. > > Mark > No. Never heard of Visolate. Google says it needs gerber files, and doesn't support any hole drilling. Might be useful though because gEDA can output gerbers. That is so common I expect eagle can too.
The pcb2cgode I also grabbed, and that site also links back to the autoprobing utilities I haven't managed to build yet. Plus I was able to pull eagle-lin-6.1.0 this morning. No clue whats been fixed but I'll use that other procedure to install it. Which works. Except eagle doesn't have it available yet for ftp, so I'll have to scp the thing to the shop box. And scp is a huge PIMA, usually taking me about an hour to hit the magic twanger & make it work. Fortunately shell history to the rescue. :) Done, installed on both machines. Visolate.jar.. I wonder if java is on the machine yet. Apparently so, I tried to run it on both machines & got the same verbose error outputs. Then, I try to make pcb2gcode, but got show stopper, needs gdkmm-2.4-devel stuff, but when I open synaptic and ask it for gdkmm, no hits! But a locate gdkmm spits out that the lib's are installed. [gene@coyote pcb2gcode-1.1.4]$ locate gdkmm /usr/lib/libgdkmm-2.4.so.1 /usr/lib/libgdkmm-2.4.so.1.1.0 But the package manager has no clue. Aha, change the search prefs to "provided packages" and out it spits. Configured, built & sudo installed. Try to run it, doesn't exist. Faint, very dim clue drifts up from who knows where, so I run gerbv, which I just installed. In the Export menu there is a RS-274 option, but I don't know if that is it, because gerbv was installed while I was configuring pcb2gcode and nor run previously, anybody else know? Just for grins I ran gerbv on the shop box, which doesn't have pcb2gcode yet, and that option is present there, so that isn't it. So, how do you run this thing when the installed? file is not in the path, and despite being installed, and an updatedb ran, it is nowhere to be found? $64,000 question... Checking the echo when I run make, it appears libtool is silently failing as it is not building the -o pcb2gcode file. Howinhell does one troubleshoot that, no error is reported? Thanks. Now I wait for the wind to settle, its busy blowing last nights 3 or 4" of snow from drainage to drainage. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: <http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene> In a medium in which a News Piece takes a minute and an "In-Depth" Piece takes two minutes, the Simple will drive out the Complex. -- Frank Mankiewicz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RSA(R) Conference 2012 Mar 27 - Feb 2 Save $400 by Jan. 27 Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev2 _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
