Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift 
to a commercial laden for profit forum? There is nothing more annoying 
that waiting for all the commercials to load and clutter up your screen 
at the zone. Do you work for or derive profit the zone?

John

On 1/24/2012 7:47 AM, Sven Wesley wrote:
> 2012/1/24 gene heskett<ghesk...@wdtv.com>
>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2012 11:57:10 PM Jeff Epler did opine:
>>
>>> Michael,
>>>
>>> I would like to address your concerns over the quality of the rebranding
>>> changes and the degree of consideration that they were given before they
>>> were made.  I can speak only for myself here, and I have my "linuxcnc
>>> developer" hat on as I write this..
>>>
>>> I don't have any trouble admitting that some of the changes I've pushed
>>> to v2.5_branch since the announcement may have been hasty and may
>>> require fine-tuning, if not outright reversion.  Personally, I felt like
>>> a huge burden had been lifted from me by the announcement; now I could
>>> finally *do something* about this problem that has been hanging over our
>>> project for months.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, I still think the approach of starting by renaming
>>> stuff and then fixing what broke was the right one.  If I had waited to
>>> push the changes until they were perfect, collaborating with my fellow
>>> developers would have been more difficult.
>>>
>>> Also in retrospect, a rebranding branch would have been a good idea
>>> (allowing collaboration while not leaving v2.5_branch unstable for days
>>> and days) but that, too, is water under the bridge.  Starting a branch
>>> now will not benefit anyone, since v2.5_branch would be just as broken
>>> as it is now until the rebranding branch was merged. (and reverting the
>>> v2.5_branch to before the rebranding seems a very severe choice, because
>>> many people have already pulled these commits)
>>>
>>> The v2.5_branch is actually in pretty good shape now, AFAIK.  Where it's
>>> not, let's talk about and address the specific technical issues.
>>>
>>> I hope that you will continue in supporting and contributing to our
>>> project.
>>>
>>> Jeff
> I both agree and disagree.
> I do think that LinuxCNC is a better name than EMC2, but I think a renaming
> process could have been handled differently.
> I also think that the communication and evolution of EMC2/LinuxCNC has
> decreased a lot.
>
> See this as a good time to restart this project!
>
> 1. Andy's idea of a white/black list is a VERY good start to proceed and to
> make this a fresh restart. Just do it.
>
> 2. Make a public Roadmap! Best case, make it voteable. I rather see 2
> known-to-public well implemented features than 10 halfway coded surprises.
>
> 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC
> website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and
> some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum at cnczone (I'll
> fix the renaming), there's a working mailing list (also active). There is a
> more or less dead website, the wiki is somewhat updated but still there are
> obsolete chapters or dead links (I promise to update the wiki myself more
> frequently in the future).
>
>
> At last, I will not put any energy into a debate about right or wrong name.
> I see this as an opportunity to make a "restart" and make this fantastic
> system better and future secured. Many people have spent so many hours in
> this project and we should take care of that!
>
> Regards,
> Sven
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