Gene, Am 03.05.2012 um 04:34 schrieb gene heskett:
> On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:24:12 PM Michael Haberler did opine: > >> Gene, >> >> please read the mail pertaining to your report which I just posted on >> emc-developers. > > I am not on the devel list, was 3-4 years back till I got it figured out > that I didn't, and couldn't, speak the level of math you folks do. Where > can I read the archives, and approximately when? the linuxcnc wiki page 1 links you to the open archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel Subject: 'queued MDI execution does not work in master' > >> I strongly oppose 'restoring this feature'. Unless a proper solution is >> implemented, this means restoring a bug which is just waiting to get >> somebody into real trouble. There is a reason the bugfix is there, and >> it is not about killing a popular feature. > > Ok, but how much trouble, in terms of code, is putting that back in. And > what do you call real trouble? Perhaps it has happened to me and I just > did a reboot without reporting the problem. The message I posted outlines the problem and the real fix. The fix is not in removing the code which changed the Axis behavior as you noticed it to be, but in removing the underlying problem. >> For further reference on the issue, I formally ask you again to file a >> bug report. There is a reason for doing so - retaining history. > > Where? Page 1 of the linuxcnc wiki links you here, which tells what to do: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Trackers It shows the history of filed bugs. You can look for yourself if somebody else reported a similar problem, for instance if there is a workaround. You will find it very easy to do, and there's a wealth of information there. > I was ignored on IRC when I asked where I should post the logs from setting You were not ignored. I happened to not be around, you started prodding other folks into 'restoring the feature', and when I saw Andy digging around in Axis to patch it up I looked myself, although I am very short on time right now. The first thing I did was to create exactly that log I asked you to. Fact is, I feel ignored on my requests to you to file a bug report - several times on different issues, which is why am a bit more candid right now. It is 'the process', and it is there for a reason: it records history, and related actions. The purpose is to help other users if they have a problem, and also reduce demand on developers time, and that is what I am asking. Some email here, some IRC message there is not a proper bug documentation, that is just lost. It is not a fascist plot of developers to force useless clerical work onto users. Since this has happened to me just too many times before and not just here, I just dont do this on-the-fly-patching-up-because-a-user-complained-loud-enough-and-it-looks-like-I'm-a-great-guy-when-I-do-it anymore. Three months later nobody remembers, and that forces everybody to rediscover history the hard way. So very often the net effect of 'I'll fix it right away' is to waste everybody's time. Thanks for your consideration. - Michael > debug=7FFFFFFF. So I have done nothing with that file, although I should > rename it so its not destroyed the next time I start it after resetting > debug=0, which I haven't done yet. > > Thanks & Cheers Michael, Gene > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > My web page: <http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene> > Do not underestimate the value of print statements for debugging. > Don't have aesthetic convulsions when using them, either. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
