I have 2 10hp and 1 15hp motors and enough parts to make 3 rotary phase 
converters. Total capital invested is in the $750-$1000 range. That size 
motor used is cheap around here. As for turning it back into cash that 
would be more difficult as there is not much demand for phase converters 
that I know of in that size range but you can never tell I might be able 
to sell one or two for $500 or so.

I agree it would be a cleaner solution and I'm very tempted at this 
point. Without much research so far I assume I would need the $4.7k 
model 55 amp model. Further testing is needed... I seldom run more than 
one CNC machine at a time and almost never run the 3-phase manual lathe 
at the same time. So the $3.1k model may fill my needs with 30 amps.

The manual lathe and the CNC lathe are very happy running on a phase 
converter but I'd rather not have the noise of the idler motor in the 
shop as they seem to be a bit noisy... and I'm rambling on now just 
trying to make some sense.

I need to open a dialog with phase technologies and see what they say.

Just reading the PT instructions they do show that they take the single 
phase and convert it to DC then back to AC but only do that for one leg...

http://www.phaseperfect.com/files/op_inst_pt.pdf

A snippet of the manual

The input module takes power from the input lines and charges a DC bus. 
The output module then draws power
from the DC bus to generate an AC voltage referenced to L2 of the input.

L1 and L2 of the single-phase input pass directly through the phase 
converter to provide two legs of the threephase
output. A manufactured phase is combined with the two input legs to 
produce three-phase output power.
Hence, the three-phase output voltage will be equal to the single-phase 
input voltage (e.g. a 240 VAC
single-phase input will produce 240 VAC three-phase output).

The three-phase output is delta configured. While the phase-to-phase 
voltages are equal, the phase-to-ground
voltages are not equal. Phase-to-ground voltage for both T1 and T2 
should be approximately 120V. Phase-toground
for T3 should be approximately 208V. For three-phase loads that are 
designed for delta connection, the
load derives its voltage phase-to-phase, so the phase-to-ground voltage 
should not affect the operation of the
equipment. If the connected load has a neutral connection and requires 
wye configured power, the output
of the phase converter must be passed through a delta-to-wye isolation 
transformer before connection to
the load.

Thanks
John

On 5/25/2012 6:45 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> On 25 May 2012 11:42, John Thornton<bjt...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Thanks for the price sheet. That is over double what I can get a diesel
>> generator for around here.
> It might be a better / cleaner solution, though. And it might release
> some capital if you can sell your existing rotary convertors?
> How much other 3-phase kit do you have?
>
> I have found a lot of documentation on the Siemens site:
> http://support.automation.siemens.com/WW/llisapi.dll?func=cslib.csinfo&lang=en&siteid=cseus&aktprim=0&extranet=standard&viewreg=WW&objid=10804939&treeLang=en
> Which infeed unit do you have? Have you checked to see if it can be
> configured for single-phase operation?
> (it looks like SimoDrive is the drive part, and the Dc converter will
> be something else)
>

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