andy pugh wrote:
> On 15 July 2012 22:14, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Sure there is Jon.  Timestamp the last 4 edges so you can develop an
>> average speed over the total time period of those 4 stamps.
>>     
>
> That's quite a lot like putting a lowpass on the velocity output.
>   
No, it is not a lot LIKE a lowpass, I think it is EXACTLY a type of lowpass
filter.  In a steady-state system, it might be a reasonable thing to do, 
assuming you
are never losing any encoder counts.  But, it is papering over a 
problem, whatever
it may be.  In a non-steady state system, where loads on the motor 
change and
maybe even the spindle reverses while a tap is in the work, it is a REALLY
bad thing to do.
> I know you want a more satisfactory solution, and so would I after
> spending so long making the encoder so perfect, but pragmatically a
> filter will probably work.
>
> I actually get a whole lot of dither from my lathe encoder, and I have
> never really figured out why. I just assume it isn't a great encoder.
I have a 324 count/rev encoder that uses an 81-tooth bull gear in my 
Bridgeport,
and three gear tooth sensors from Avago.  Details are at
http://pico-systems.com/bridge_spindle.html

This works great.  The Z servos do not grumble at all, although I will 
mention that
almost all threading I have done with it has been fine thread, such as 
4-40 to
10-32.  The spindle speed display, however, DID jump all over the place, 
so I put
a lowpass filter on the DISPLAYED speed only, not in the feedback path to
the CNC control.

So, I'm not sure how this 324 count/rev compares to the systems that are
giving problems.  I do NOT have encoder time stamping on that system,
by the way.

Jon

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