I hadnt contemplated the only brat syndrome i really am not one but my
siblings are 15 and 18 yrs older so it very well could be. Im glad you
provided ping links because I didnt understand a bit of the technical
lingo in that message. ( you must have assumed my ignorance or
incompetence ,,,, or ummmmm both? )  :) i clicked on all three  links
and now I am yelping as you requested and they are not responsive
returning an oops, could not connect and a could not find
-- 
jeremy youngs

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