On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 08:24 -0400, Bruce Layne wrote:
> I have a suggestion that's maybe not quite as snarky as Charles' 
> suggestion, but still in the direction of "maybe you're optimizing the 
> wrong problem."
> 
> If I were placing approximately 10,000 marbles or less, I probably 
> wouldn't try to develop a method of having the machine do it.  I'd make 
> relatively minor changes to optimize the operation for manual assembly.
> 
> I have an EFD 1500XL fluid dispensing system.  It has a couple of 
> operating modes, but in this case, it's basically a syringe full of 
> epoxy with a regulated air supply that can be applied over the epoxy to 
> precisely dispense it through a needle.  Press the foot pedal and a thin 
> bead of epoxy is dispensed as you move the tip of the needle around the 
> upper rim of the concave pocket.  Release the foot pedal and a slight 
> vacuum is applied over the epoxy in the syringe to keep it from 
> dripping.  The positive pressure can be adjusted for the flow rate you 
> want, and the vacuum can be adjusted for the fluid pull-back you want 
> for your application.  It's now a one handed operation, leaving your 
> other hand free for placing marbles.  You can buy a used EFD on eBay, 
> probably for <$100, use it for this project, and then sell it for what 
> you paid for it.
> 
> Dispensing epoxy is a bit tricky, because it's curing in the syringe, 
> and the viscosity is changing.  The trick is to use a slow epoxy with a 
> 6 hour cure rate, and that should give you a 1-2 hour working pot life.  
> You might need to bump up the dispense pressure slightly toward the 
> end.  Slow epoxies tend to be watery.  If you want thicker epoxy to give 
> you a little more time to place the marble, you can mix in materials 
> like cabosil to increase the viscosity to make it easier to use on 
> vertical surfaces, and use a larger bore needle.
> 
> I recommended this approach because we often tend to focus our 
> efficiency efforts on making the machine do all of the work, but many 
> times, the fastest CNC throughput is achieved by an appropriate division 
> of labor between the machine and the operator.  For example, if the 
> machine was a blur-of-motion SCARA assembly robot that could place all 
> of the adhesive and marbles in five seconds, that's five seconds added 
> to the cycle time.  If the operator is placing the adhesive and marbles, 
> all you'd need to do is keep up with the machine's ability to make the 
> holes and there would be no increase in cycle time.  Basically, if 
> you're trying to maximize the rate of production, it does you no good at 
> all to devise some clever method for the machine to dispense epoxy and 
> perform a pick and place operation with the marbles, if that leaves you 
> standing there watching the machine with nothing to do but juggle your 
> marbles.
> 
> However, if you have issues with operator fatigue or quality that can't 
> be addressed with precision dispensing tools, or you simply have a hobby 
> interest in solving the technical challenge of getting a machine to glue 
> marbles into holes, then by all means, go for that technical solution 
> and post a YouTube video.  I love stuff like that!  Andy had some great 
> suggestions in that vein, as usual.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/09/2012 07:41 AM, charles green wrote:
> > suggestion:  consider alternate method of celebration.
> >
> > --- On Tue, 10/9/12, craig <cr...@facework.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: craig <cr...@facework.com>
> >> Subject: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls
> >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2012, 2:52 AM
> >> I have a CNC related problem.
> >>
> >> I am making small decorative personal gifts using thin wood
> >> (5-6mm - 1/4
> >> inch thick) and 6mm diameter colored glass balls (small
> >> marbles).
> >>
> >> A pattern of shaped holes is cut in the wood with a small
> >> cnc router
> >> using 2 tools.  A 1/4 ball nose mill cuts to
> >> approximately 4mm depth.  A
> >> 3/16 tool then cuts the rest of the way through he wood.
> >> additional
> >> surface patterns may also be cut.
> >>
> >> The balls are then glued into the holes with a clear
> >> adhesive (
> >> currently a thinned clear caulking compound).
> >>
> >> The resulting items are interesting viewed directly or
> >> back-lit.
> >>
> >>
> >> The problem:
> >>
> >> The marbles are currently glued in by hand.
> >>    Painting the glue into the holes, placing the ball
> >> and pressing it
> >> down gets tedious.
> >>
> >> I would like to automate this process by replacing the
> >> spindle with
> >> other equipment.
> >>
> >> I can automate the pick and placement of the balls.  (
> >> spheres may be
> >> the easiest item to pick and place)
> >>
> >> But I have not found a good way to automate the gluing
> >> process
> >> inexpensively.
> >>
> >> suggestions? Thoughts?
> >>
> >>
> >> Any help would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Craig

If you are going to do a lot of these then some level of automation is
desirable unless you enjoy being bored. 
So: Tube dispensers to place different colors of balls; just like ink
cartridges. Insert balls from back side of board then dispense a small
amount of non-viscous adhesive in the center of the ball and it runs to
the perimeter of the hole where surface tension tends to keep it in
place. 

I must say this is an interesting application. ;-)

Dave
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