I don't use a drill chuck on any of my mills, I've been told ER collets 
are much better and that is what I use. A little googling and it looks 
like the NMBT30 can be modified to fit the QC30 with the only difference 
between the 30's is the flange and drive lugs.

http://www.tools-n-gizmos.com/specs/Tapers.html

On my BP with Kwik Switch tooling and the tool changer is subject to 
being distracted from time to time I have a little rack with numbers and 
I pull from the rack if there is more than 1 tool change.

John

On 10/29/2012 11:26 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
> Bone headed error...  I am doing a small production run, using three
> different drills, each mounted in its own tool holder.  I had carefully
> measured the length of each tool and recorded them all in the tool
> table.  I had run about 10 parts, everything was going great, just a few
> left to go.
>
> Then I got distracted and loaded the wrong tool...  Unlucky for me, the
> tool I loaded was much longer than the tool the machine asked for, and
> the machine happily drove a drill chuck with a #39 drill right into the
> work.
>
> The drill shattered and disappeared in a spray of shrapnel (no one was
> hit).  The jaws of the drill chuck drilled about 0.100 inches down into
> the work piece (soft aluminum, fortunately).  The Z servo finally
> signaled a following error and e-stopped the machine.  The work and the
> fixture plate absorbed all the damage, the table of the machine is still
> unmarked.  So it could have been worse.
>
> But the chuck is completely ruined.  It used to be a pretty nice keyless
> chuck, 1/32" to 1/2" gripping range, J6 taper.  Now it's garbage: the
> body (what I would normally turn to tighten and loosen the jaws) turns
> very reluctantly, and the jaws don't move at all when i turn it...
>
> I got it off the J6 tool holder, and the J6 taper on the tool holder has
> ~0.001 inches of runout now (measured with a DTI on the taper, while
> mounted in the spindle and turning slowly).  I don't know what the
> runout was before the crash, and I don't know what's acceptable.  Does
> this seem reasonable, or should I scrap the tool holder too and look for
> another?  My spindle has a QC-30 taper, which is somewhat unusual - tool
> holders like this can be hard to come by.
>
> In either case I need a new drill chuck.
>
> The wrecked chuck is of the keyless variety, and while that's convenient
> I'm considering replacing it with a keyed chuck because they tend to be
> shorter, and my quill is a bit limited in Z travel. Why do CNC machines
> usually have keyless chucks?
>
> What do you all recommend for a good value on a drill chuck, about 1/32"
> to 1/2", J6 taper?
>
> Keyed or keyless?
>
> Help me emc-users, you're my only hope!
>


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