On Sunday 10 February 2013 18:42:48 John Thornton did opine:

> McMaster Carr does not have a minimum order... I've ordered $2 parts
> from them, you still pay reasonable shipping on anything you order.
> 
> John

Thats better, thanks John.  Now to remember it.  In any event, Andy gave me 
a clue that turned out to be the fix.  Turn the bearings around, and then 
shim between the outer races does the whole thing, so I am down to a decent 
backlash setting now.  I also filled them with grease before re-assembly.  
Wouldn't want to burn them up as I can now go 60 ipm for rapids now.

Thanks John.

> On 2/10/2013 8:05 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 10 February 2013 08:34:10 Mark Wendt did opine:
> > Message additions Copyright Sunday 10 February 2013 by Gene Heskett
> > 
> >> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Steve Blackmore <st...@pilotltd.net>
> > 
> > wrote:
> >>>> That may work for most 'Murkan made machines, but those with the
> >>>> made overseas in Asia tend to have a pretty lousy fit for the
> >>>> standard grease gun fitting.
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Mark - oil nipple heads often aren't the same size and shape as
> >>> grease nipples. Myford's were fitted with oil nipples, not grease
> >>> nipples. I still have the original Wanner oil gun off one. It
> >>> doesn't clip on the nipple. The end is simply a recess that you
> >>> push against the nipple and pump.
> >>> 
> >>> There's a link on this page that shows oil nipples (and the
> >>> expensive pump ;)
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.lathespares.co.uk/oil-lubrication-c-31/wanner-oil-gun-for
> >>> -t he-myford-lathe-new-p-646
> >>> 
> >>> The round head type nipple generally has a smaller diameter head
> >>> than a grease nipple with the same thread.
> >>> 
> >>> Plenty of Myford spindles were damaged though by people forcing
> >>> grease into them using those grease guns with an adjustable
> >>> clamping nozzle. It often forced the wick (hidden in the hole) into
> >>> the bearing..
> >>> 
> >>> Steve Blackmore
> >> 
> >> Steve,
> >> 
> >> Yah, I'd heard about some of the horror stories where folks had
> >> forced grease into an oil fitting.  That was why I was concerned for
> >> Gene when he mentioned his grease gun wouldn't fit the zerk.  A
> >> number of guys on Practical Machinist had bought machines where the
> >> previous owner had forced grease into an oil fitting, and left a
> >> mess.
> >> 
> >> Gene, check the link for the image of the two type oil fittings at
> >> the bottom of Steve's link.  Does your zerk look like either of
> >> those?
> >> 
> >> Mark
> > 
> > The photo isn't as clear as it could be.  However folks, we aren't
> > talking about a high speed spindle.  This is a ball nut on a 16x5mm
> > screw, that I was able to get 60 ipm rapids out of last night with a
> > 2/1 geardown so the motor is charging right along, thinking I was
> > home free, but the backlash setting I needed was excessive IMO,
> > someplace in the .0045" to .0048" range, which seemed awful sloppy
> > for a ball screw that was supposedly a C7 grade.  Turns out there is
> > zero preload on the angular ball bearings in the drive end bearing
> > block regardless of the torque applied to the tensioning nut.
> > 
> > So, I need a 12mm bore, 18mm OD, .2mm thick shim washer to space the
> > center races apart far enough that when I put the end cap back on the
> > block, pushing in on the outer races, they will then be preloaded
> > about a thou. Or is that too much crush?  .1mm is the thinest I can
> > get, but that will only take up about 60% of the end play which as
> > is, looks to be as above, measured on either end of the screw.
> > 
> > Besides, the grease fitting has been replaced with a Murican version
> > (finding that turned into an all afternoon job Thursday) and the nut
> > has been greased enough to push a small amount past the felt (or
> > whatever, its white, wipers at each end of the nut.  Since its maxed
> > at maybe 300 rpm, std lithium grease will make it outlive me.
> > 
> > It turns out, in my tour of the place looking for suitable shim
> > material, that the alu slider on a 3.5" floppy disk is about that
> > thickness.  But cutting a shim out of that would probably be an EDM
> > job to do it neat enough without burrs on the edges.  Unless somebody
> > else has an idea.
> > 
> > McMaster-Carr has them in either 316 or 18-8 SS, straddling a $10 bill
> > but whats their minimum order?  More than a tenner IIRC.
> > 
> > Cheers, Gene

Cheers, Gene
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